Monocle of Clarity (& questions about the deck contents)

TunFiskeMad wrote:

I know there is no power curve broken in the wrong direction, but this card just seem so ripe for abuse if played against that I don't really see the point of it.

What sort of abuse are you seeing?

I can ask you easily verifiable questions, like the contents of your hand, uncontrolled region, or other visible-to-you-but-hidden-from-me areas of the game. You have to answer truthfully, and a judge can check.

I can ask you questions that you might or might not know the answer to, and you have to answer truthfully (as best you understand it) but might be wrong. If I do that and I don't like the answer, that's my fault.

Well like people "forgetting" what they are playing - yes there is occasion where you would want to know.

Interpretation of the question asked might vary.

Yes you can ask clear cut questions like: do you have a specific card in hand, but going beyond that you might get "lawyered" if bad at the language or missing a loophole on a card.

TunFiskeMad wrote:

Well like people "forgetting" what they are playing - yes there is occasion where you would want to know.

Interpretation of the question asked might vary.

Yes you can ask clear cut questions like: do you have a specific card in hand, but going beyond that you might get "lawyered" if bad at the language or missing a loophole on a card.

That's not new with Monocle of Clarity. At any point in the game, a player might ask a misleading question, strike a misleading deal, or just outright lie to you.

If the problem is "Talking is hard", then that's a problem that needs to be fixed by the player concerned, Monocle or no.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

That's not new with Monocle of Clarity. At any point in the game, a player might ask a misleading question, strike a misleading deal, or just outright lie to you.

Well lying to you concerning deals is allowed, but you are not allowed to lie about the answer to the monocle question.

The question now is how do you interept willfully forgetting the correct answer?

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If the problem is "Talking is hard", then that's a problem that needs to be fixed by the player concerned, Monocle or no.

Which is all fine and dandy when we are talking about the "game" - but when we talk about mechanical effects in the game, they shouldn't be language dependent.

TunFiskeMad wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

That's not new with Monocle of Clarity. At any point in the game, a player might ask a misleading question, strike a misleading deal, or just outright lie to you.

Well lying to you concerning deals is allowed, but you are not allowed to lie about the answer to the monocle question.

If I ask a confusing question and a player with a poor grasp of the language misunderstands me, that's my fault. It would be entirely acceptable, however, for a player to ask for the question to be re-stated more simply.

TunFiskeMad wrote:

The question now is how do you interept willfully forgetting the correct answer?

Psychic probes.

Alternatively, if this is a real problem, ask a different question where it won't be a problem.

TunFiskeMad wrote:

Which is all fine and dandy when we are talking about the "game" - but when we talk about mechanical effects in the game, they shouldn't be language dependent.

So the player asks for the question to be stated more simply. Or the asking player states it very simply. Problem solved.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

TunFiskeMad wrote:

Well like people "forgetting" what they are playing - yes there is occasion where you would want to know.

Interpretation of the question asked might vary.

Yes you can ask clear cut questions like: do you have a specific card in hand, but going beyond that you might get "lawyered" if bad at the language or missing a loophole on a card.

That's not new with Monocle of Clarity. At any point in the game, a player might ask a misleading question, strike a misleading deal, or just outright lie to you.

If the problem is "Talking is hard", then that's a problem that needs to be fixed by the player concerned, Monocle or no.

As James mentioned, you're best off with simple, easily verifiable questions.

"Do you have any reaction cards in your hand that could change the targe of a bleed?" is clear.

"Are you currently able to bounce my bleed?" (from the original thread) is not a good question.

1. "Currently" is an ambiguous turn. It is during the untap phase so I don't have any cards that let me do that during the untap. Even "this turn" is potentially vague since things may change during the turn. Asking about cards in hand (and facedown cards such as on Shilmulo Tarot) seems to be your best option.

2. Don't get cute with slang. "Bounce? Flick? I have no idea what that means. Oh you meant a card that *redirects a bleed*. Too bad you didn't ask the right question! Maybe you can try again next turn?"