file Shadow Court Satyr and Death Seeker

17 Apr 2012 05:44 #28050 by Chaitan

Shadow Court Satyr (Changeling)

Changeling with 3 life. 1 strength, 1 bleed.
When the Satyr enters play, you may put a combat card from your hand on him. Once each combat, the Satyr may use the ability of that card as if played from your hand. If the card requires a vampire (e.g., costs blood or requires a Discipline), he may use it as a vampire with the basic level of the Discipline (if any).

Death Seeker

Cancel a combat card played by the opposing minion as it is played (no cost is paid). A vampire can play only one Death Seeker each round.


Scenario. Shadow Court Satyr enters play with Earthmeld and later enters combat with a !Salubri vampire who play Death Seeker to cancel the Earthmeld strike.

First question: Can Earthmeld be cancelled at all?

Second question: If Earthmeld is cancelled is it returned to Shadow Court Satyr or ash heap?

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17 Apr 2012 06:39 #28053 by Jussi
Card (Earth Meld) stays on Satyr, and you never play it - just use the effect (as if played from your hand).

Death Seeker does not cancel combat end effect or any other effect from card on Shadow Court Satyr.

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17 Apr 2012 07:31 #28054 by Chaitan
"Once each combat, the Satyr may use the ability of that card as if played from your hand."

"Cancel a combat card played by the opposing minion as it is played"

This part makes me believe Death Seeker do indeed cancel the earthmeld.

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17 Apr 2012 07:37 #28055 by Izaak
Ye and then I can highlight it as follows:

"Once each combat, the Satyr may use the ability of that card as if played from your hand."

"Cancel a combat card played by the opposing minion as it is played"

And claim Death Seeker doesn't cancel the effect, which is probably the case as the Shadow Court Satyr is using an effect and not playing a card. Thus you can't cancel it, similar to how Death Seeker doesn't cancel a strike done with Strike with Conviction.

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17 Apr 2012 07:56 #28056 by Chaitan
Re: Izaak.

So you are saying the Earthmeld card is somehow no longer a card and no longer a combat card when placed on the Satyr?

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17 Apr 2012 08:12 #28057 by Ohlmann

Re: Izaak.

So you are saying the Earthmeld card is somehow no longer a card and no longer a combat card when placed on the Satyr?


VtES is not magic. The Satyr does not copy the card or anything, it use its ability. No card is played, so no death seeker.

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