WMRH Talk Radio vs Political Action

Ankha wrote:

Meth A (1 pool left) with a WMRH Talk Radio attempts to block, uses the WMRH but fails to block.
Am I right to assume that Meth A is ousted when the action resolves = the referendum of the political action is conducted, and therefore can't be chosen in the terms of the referendum?

No. When the action resolves = when the referendum is conducted (amongst other effects, such as setting terms) is before that player burns pool to WMRH (which happens "after" the action resolves).

So a vamp with Perfectionist gains one blood BEFORE the referendum is conducted? Kinda wierd... so you can play Freak Drive as well? I always thought the referendum to be part of the action (like combat for instance, when the action is blocked).

Since we're at it: is the Voter Cap window still part of the resolution, or does the action resolution end right after applying the effects of the successful referendum?

I would tend to say it is still part of the resolution, but only because the next window is the "after resolution" window

Malachy wrote:

So a vamp with Perfectionist gains one blood BEFORE the referendum is conducted? Kinda wierd...

Name: Perfectionist
[Gehenna:C, KoT:C]
Cardtype: Master
Master: archetype.
Put this card on a vampire you control. Once per turn, when this vampire sucessfully performs an action and no reaction cards are played, he or she gains 1 blood after the action is resolved. A vampire can have only one archetype.
Artist: Ken Meyer, Jr.

Same wording, same effect, same window. After resolution of a referendum means after the referendum is conducted, after the effects have been applied.

Malachy wrote:

so you can play Freak Drive as well? I always thought the referendum to be part of the action (like combat for instance, when the action is blocked).

Name: Freak Drive
[Jyhad:R2, VTES:R, CE:U/PV2, Anarchs:PG, LoB:PA2, Third:U, LotN:PR, KoT:PV3, HttB:PSam2]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Fortitude
[for] Only usable at the end of a successful action (after resolving the action). This vampire untaps.
[FOR] As above, but usable even if the action is blocked (play after combat, if any).

The hint is given twice here - "after resolution", again, is the same as "after the effects have been applied" for referenda.

Non-existant user wrote:

Since we're at it: is the Voter Cap window still part of the resolution, or does the action resolution end right after applying the effects of the successful referendum?

I would tend to say it is still part of the resolution, but only because the next window is the "after resolution" window

Name: Voter Captivation
[Jyhad:U2, VTES:U, Sabbat:U, CE:U/PTo2/PV, Anarchs:PAB3, KMW:PAn3, LoB:PG3, Third:U/PB2]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Presence
Only usable after resolving a successful referendum called by this acting vampire.

 The acting vampire gains X blood from the blood bank, where X is the number of votes by which the referendum passed.

 As above, but move up to 2 of those blood counters to your pool instead of this vampire.

I agree the cardtext is slightly different. However, it should be clear that Voter Captivation is played after the referendum - after resolving its effects.
If you call an Anarchist Uprising when you have 1 pool, Voter Captivation won't save you. Voter Captivation has the same window as Freak Drive (after resolution). You can play VC and then FD, or FD and then VC.

Pascal wrote:

I agree the cardtext is slightly different. However, it should be clear that Voter Captivation is played after the referendum - after resolving its effects.
If you call an Anarchist Uprising when you have 1 pool, Voter Captivation won't save you. Voter Captivation has the same window as Freak Drive (after resolution). You can play VC and then FD, or FD and then VC.

I would love it to work as you say (it is simpler), but LSJ seems to have ruled differently, unless there is a more recent answer I don't know of:
groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/yvOEO69y2kU