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27 Sep 2012 07:29 #37831 by Tomas
Can you use Creepshow casino twice on the same action if you untap it with house of Sorrows?

Creepshow Casino
Type: Master
Pool Cost: 2

Master: unique location.
Tap when a vampire you control announces an undirected action to give that acting vampire +1 stealth; usable even though the stealth is not yet needed.



House of Sorrow
Type: Master
Pool Cost: 1

Master: unique location.
Tap to untap any card you control that is not a minion. If you do so, neither that card nor this location untap as normal on your next untap phase.

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27 Sep 2012 07:41 #37836 by Chaitan
Replied by Chaitan on topic Re: Double Creepshow casino
Yes. Cards and effects stack by default unless rules or card text state otherwise.

But you must tap it twice during the "announces an undirected action" window.

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27 Sep 2012 07:41 #37837 by Pascal Bertrand

Can you use Creepshow casino twice on the same action if you untap it with house of Sorrows?

No.
Preceding examples: [LSJ 20081229] and [LSJ 20090731] refer to the word "when" for the reason not to be able to use a card twice on a triggered event (Tower of London was the first question like this).
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27 Sep 2012 07:57 #37842 by Chaitan
Replied by Chaitan on topic Re: Double Creepshow casino

Yes. Cards and effects stack by default unless rules or card text state otherwise.

But you must tap it twice during the "announces an undirected action" window.


I stand corrected.

May I suggest the addition of keywords to the www.vekn.net/index.php/all-rulings/general-rulings and place rulings for keywords such as "when", "may" and more under this?

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27 Sep 2012 10:52 #37861 by Pascal Bertrand
Well, it's really just a ruling about House of Sorrows. I'll think if I can add it to the Rulings page.

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27 Sep 2012 15:35 #37886 by KevinM
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I think the issue is that ANY word describing timing means that the effect can only be used once.

c.f. Maris Streck: "...can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept."

c.f. Corpse Minion: "...may burn X blood to get +X intercept..."

Neither have such a word.

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