file Psyche + Yawp Court

20 Nov 2012 11:30 - 20 Nov 2012 11:38 #41269 by Tomas
Psyche + Yawp Court was created by Tomas
What happens after combat initiated with Yawp court and either vampires controller plays psyche!

Can either vampires controller play psyche!? Since the referendum is qeued to happen after combat and you can´t qeue two seperate combats.

Does it interrupt the referendum so it doesn´t happen like you would interrupt torrent or disallow someone to continue an action with suerpior form of mist?

I assume similar answers could be applied to blissful agony, if not why?

Yawp Court
Type: Master

Master: unique location. Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
When a political action is successful, before the referendum, tap this card and a ready untapped Sabbat vampire you control to have that vampire enter combat with the acting vampire. If the acting vampire is still ready at the end of combat, the Sabbat vampire takes 2 damage, and the referendum is conducted as normal.

Artist: Glenn Osterberger
Third:R

Psyche!
Type: Combat
Discipline: Celerity

[cel] Press.
[CEL] Only usable at the end of combat when both combatants are still ready. Begin another combat with the opposing minion.

Blissful Agony
Type: Combat
Blood Cost: 1
Discipline: Valeren/Animalism

[ani] Strike: hand strike at +1 damage.
[val] Only usable at close range before strikes are chosen. Opposing minion takes 1 unpreventable damage during strike resolution each round this combat when the range is close. A vampire may play only one Blissful Agony at [val] each combat.
[VAL] Strike: combat ends. Choose a minion controlled by a Methuselah other than the opposing vampire's controller. The opposing vampire enters combat with that minion.



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Last edit: 20 Nov 2012 11:38 by Tomas. Reason: added blissful agony question

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20 Nov 2012 12:27 - 20 Nov 2012 12:30 #41271 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Psyche + Yawp Court

What happens after combat initiated with Yawp court and either vampires controller plays psyche!

Can either vampires controller play psyche!? Since the referendum is qeued to happen after combat and you can´t qeue two seperate combats.

Referendum is not a combat :)
You can play Psyche! and queue another combat. You still take 2 damage at the end of the first combat.

Does it interrupt the referendum so it doesn´t happen like you would interrupt torrent or disallow someone to continue an action with suerpior form of mist?

It doesn't interupt the referendum. The referendum is conducted when all the combats are over.

I assume similar answers could be applied to blissful agony

Correct


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20 Nov 2012 12:57 #41272 by Tomas
Replied by Tomas on topic Re: Psyche + Yawp Court

What happens after combat initiated with Yawp court and either vampires controller plays psyche!

Can either vampires controller play psyche!? Since the referendum is qeued to happen after combat and you can´t qeue two seperate combats.

Referendum is not a combat :)
You can play Psyche! and queue another combat. You still take 2 damage at the end of the first combat.

Does it interrupt the referendum so it doesn´t happen like you would interrupt torrent or disallow someone to continue an action with suerpior form of mist?

It doesn't interupt the referendum. The referendum is conducted when all the combats are over.

I assume similar answers could be applied to blissful agony

Correct


Reference


Thank you for the answers Ankha,

May I ask you if you know why?

Since Yawp court specifically states "If the acting vampire is still ready at the end of combat, the Sabbat vampire takes 2 damage, and the referendum is conducted as normal." Is it because this phrase doesn´t specify what combat that makes the referendum to happen after x additional combats?

and as an extra question if the combat that followed the initial combat initiated with Yawp court ends and both participants are still ready does the vampire controlled by the controller of Yawp court take 2 additional damage?

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20 Nov 2012 13:25 - 20 Nov 2012 13:26 #41274 by Boris The Blade

and as an extra question if the combat that followed the initial combat initiated with Yawp court ends and both participants are still ready does the vampire controlled by the controller of Yawp court take 2 additional damage?

No because that second combat was not initiated by Yawp Court. In the same way that if you block with a Sniper Rifle and Psyche!, you cannot use the Sniper Rifle in the second combat.
Last edit: 20 Nov 2012 13:26 by Boris The Blade.

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20 Nov 2012 13:49 - 20 Nov 2012 13:51 #41275 by Tomas
Replied by Tomas on topic Re: Psyche + Yawp Court

and as an extra question if the combat that followed the initial combat initiated with Yawp court ends and both participants are still ready does the vampire controlled by the controller of Yawp court take 2 additional damage?

No because that second combat was not initiated by Yawp Court. In the same way that if you block with a Sniper Rifle and Psyche!, you cannot use the Sniper Rifle in the second combat.


Thank you for the quick reply.

I understand, but why would there then be a referendum after the second combat that is not initiated by Yawp Court?
Last edit: 20 Nov 2012 13:51 by Tomas. Reason: Adding pleasantries

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20 Nov 2012 14:03 #41276 by Ohlmann
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Thank you for the quick reply.

I understand, but why would there then be a referendum after the second combat that is not initiated by Yawp Court?


The real question is, why they wouldn't be one ?

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