file Claiming the Body

24 Apr 2013 15:21 - 24 Apr 2013 15:26 #47570 by jamesatzephyr
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Claiming the Body

A cancelled combat has never started.
Similarily, a cancelled action has never started.


Cancelling an action card prevents the action from starting.

But, for example, Tangle Atropos' Hand cancels an action that is already in progress:
Only usable when a minion is attempting to block.
Cancel the action and untap the acting minion. (The blocking minion is not tapped.)

It doesn't mean the action was never started. It's closer to "prematurely terminated".

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Jeff Kuta wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:57 pm, Ector <> wrote:
>> 1). I was thinking that canceling an action means that the action was
>> "never performed",
No. It means something more like canceling a check -- the check was still
written. Canceling an action menas the action is prematurely terminated.



However, since it terminates before resolution, the 'NRA' taint isn't applied. Similarly, if you Mask an action off a minion, the first minion isn't hit by the NRA taint - that happens at resolution (successful or otherwise), not announcement/attempt.
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25 Apr 2013 04:08 #47637 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Claiming the Body

A cancelled combat has never started.
Similarily, a cancelled action has never started.


Cancelling an action card prevents the action from starting.

Sure. I was thinking about action cards cancelled "as it is played".

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25 Apr 2013 06:01 #47653 by Pascal Bertrand

If an untapped vampire successfully blocks an action and I play Claiming the Body, is the blocker tapped?

Claiming the Body
Action Modifier, 1 blood, Sanguinus
Requires a ready untapped Blood Brother of the same circle as another one who has just been blocked.
:san: Cancel the combat and end the action. (Do not untap the blocking minion.)
:SAN: As above, and untap the acting Blood Brother.


Yes, the blocker is tapped if he taps when successfully blocking.

(Some minions don't tap when successfully blocking, such as a 5-cap vampire with Atonement blocking a 3-cap)

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25 Apr 2013 06:12 #47657 by jhattara
Replied by jhattara on topic Re: Claiming the Body
And am I correct that cards like Cats' Guidance can't be played after Claiming the Body as there is no action left to react to?

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25 Apr 2013 06:17 #47659 by Pascal Bertrand

And am I correct that cards like Cats' Guidance can't be played after Claiming the Body as there is no action left to react to?

Correct. Once the action is ended, action modifiers or reaction cards can no longer be played. This includes Freak Drive (when playing base Claiming the Body) or Cats' Guidance.


Name: Cats' Guidance
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Animalism
[ani] Only usable by a tapped vampire immediately after he or she blocks (play after combat, if any). Untap this reacting vampire.
[ANI] +1 intercept.

Name: Freak Drive
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Fortitude
[for] Only usable at the end of a successful action (after resolving the action). This vampire untaps.
[FOR] As above, but usable even if the action is blocked (play after combat, if any).

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25 Apr 2013 06:21 #47660 by jamesatzephyr
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Claiming the Body

Correct. Once the action is ended, action modifiers or reaction cards can no longer be played. This includes Freak Drive (when playing base Claiming the Body) or Cats' Guidance.


Can I cross the streams and bring up my post in another thread where LSJ appeared to retreat from that statement when the card triggers off the action ending?

Thus here, I think it's supportable that Freak Drive superior is playable (triggering text, action was blocked), but Cats' Guidance isn't.

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