file Claiming the Body

24 Apr 2013 11:30 - 24 Apr 2013 11:33 #47543 by AriusZet
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Pascal:
Can you confirm that when an action modifier cancels combat that the combat was "started"?


in my interpretation the combat is about to happen, but it's cancelled (during the beginning of the combat itself). so we have a succesful block, and a combat. In this case, the blocker can use psyche, to start an other combat. after the combat is cancelled by Claiming the body.

other scenario: If the blocker uses something like "mental maze"
(Only usable when this vampire successfully blocks an ally or a younger vampire play before combat, if any
End the action (with no combat). If this blocking minion is a Follower of Set, this card costs 1 less blood.
As above, and do not tap this blocking vampire. )

It happens AFTER the block is succesful, and BEFORE combat. in this case neither the opposing vampires can use psyche (since there is no combat) and the blood brother cannot use Claiming the Body, becouse there is no combat to cancel.

in other words they must be in combat to cancel combat.
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24 Apr 2013 11:45 #47545 by Ankha
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Pascal:

Can you confirm that when an action modifier cancels combat that the combat was "started"?

A cancelled combat has never started.
Similarily, a cancelled action has never started.

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24 Apr 2013 11:48 - 24 Apr 2013 11:48 #47546 by Ankha
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Pascal:
Can you confirm that when an action modifier cancels combat that the combat was "started"?


in my interpretation the combat is about to happen, but it's cancelled (during the beginning of the combat itself). so we have a succesful block, and a combat.

Combat "is about to happen", should happen, but in fact it's cancelled, so there's no combat.
If the combat starts, it means it hasn't been cancelled.
Cancelling a combat is different from ending a combat before range is determined (such as with Alpha Glint).

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24 Apr 2013 12:08 #47549 by AriusZet
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If the combat starts, it means it hasn't been cancelled.
Cancelling a combat is different from ending a combat before range is determined (such as with Alpha Glint).


just to have me understand correctly: A "cancelled" combat like this can be re-started by psyche (tele tracking..) ?

or it's the same (f.e.) as with mental maze?

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24 Apr 2013 13:23 - 24 Apr 2013 13:24 #47551 by kombainas
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Psyche! is usable at the end of the round, and if the combat is cancelled, there are no rounds to begin with. Same applies to other combat cards, as, err, they can be used only IN combat.

!malk! :OBF: :DEM: :cel: :cap6: Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
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24 Apr 2013 15:16 - 24 Apr 2013 15:22 #47569 by jamesatzephyr
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Can you confirm that when an action modifier cancels combat that the combat was "started"?


Action modifiers and reactions are played before combat starts (or more generally, outside combat). If combat has started, you can't play it. [6.4]

The only known exception is Legacy of Power, because it ends combat (not cancels it). LSJ forgot to correct it in the Tenth Anniversary Tin, which will upset both people who've ever considered playing it.
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