Timing of Blood Shield effekt

jamesatzephyr wrote:

donk wrote:

Does the supposed cap 1-6 opponent have to burn the blood before it heals damage, or do they occur at the same time?

Before healing.

[LSJ 20090528]

LSJ wrote:

John Flournoy wrote:
> On May 27, 4:03 pm, wrote:
>> Blood Shield
>> Requires: Osebo
>> Type: Equipment
>> Cost: 2 pool
>> Unique Equipment.
>> The minion with this equipment may prevent 1 damage from an opposing
>> minion's strike each round. If used to prevent damage from a hand
>> strike made by a vampire with capacity 6 or less, that vampire burns 2
>> blood.
>>
>> When exactly does the latter effect of Blood Shield burn blood? Is it
>> before a reacting vampire can play Skin of Steel?
>
> "If used to prevent damage from a hand strike" - thus during the
> "Prevent Damage" part of damage resolution, i.e. in the same window as
> playing Skin of Steel.
>
> However, the blood is burnt at the point where Blood Shield is used to
> prevent the damage; this is part of the resolution of Blood Shield and
> thus will take place before the opposing minion can play a subsequent
> prevent effect like Skin of Steel. It's not something that can be
> interrupted halfway through resolving the text of Blood Shield; it
> resolves in response to Blood Shield being played (and not cancelled.)
>
>> If not, is it still before the heal damage-step?
>
> Yes. Preventing damage is always before healing damage.

Correct.

So in practice, yuo'd probably use it if you were facing shenanigans such as:

- aggravated hand damage (so preventing that is probably better for you, even if it causes you to burn blood)
- effects based on the amount of damage you took, such as Disarm

I want to be sure here about Timing of Blood Shield effekt,I give 2 scenario:

1) A acting in combat with B(B cap is 5 and have 2 bllod),both declare hand strike. A use Blood Shield to prevent,so B must burn 2 blood in same time,and cannot pay any prevent cards if card cost?

2) A(A cap is 5 and have 2 bllod) acting in combat with B,both declare hand strike. because is A acting him first have chance to prevent,right? A can play and pay Skin of Steel,then impulse goes to B,B use Blood Shield to prevent hand strike,A burn only 1 blood (because dont have 2) because of Blood Shield effekt?

beslin wrote:

1) A acting in combat with B(B cap is 5 and have 2 bllod),both declare hand strike. A use Blood Shield to prevent,so B must burn 2 blood in same time,and cannot pay any prevent cards if card cost?

This is explicitly answered in the post, which LSJ confirms as correct:

That wrote:

> the blood is burnt at the point where Blood Shield is used to
> prevent the damage; this is part of the resolution of Blood Shield and
> thus will take place before the opposing minion can play a subsequent
> prevent effect like Skin of Steel.

When A uses Blood Shield, B burns blood, as explained in that post. This can stop a subsequent prevent effect like Skin of Steel, if they lack the blood the pay for it.

beslin wrote:

2) A(A cap is 5 and have 2 bllod) acting in combat with B,both declare hand strike. because is A acting him first have chance to prevent,right?

Yes. [1.6.1.5]

beslin wrote:

A can play and pay Skin of Steel,then impulse goes to B,B use Blood Shield to prevent hand strike,A burn only 1 blood (because dont have 2) because of Blood Shield effekt?

That's what Blood Shield does, yes.