Re: Blood to Water clarification

Snodig wrote:

Rémi wrote:

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Yes, you can.

I thought some link above stated that immortal grapple couldn't be played in the before range phase ? (and so it would be the same for BtW ?)

Timo wrote:

Snodig wrote:

Rémi wrote:

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Yes, you can.

I thought some link above stated that immortal grapple couldn't be played in the before range phase ? (and so it would be the same for BtW ?)

immortal grapple is not played before range phase,there say how efect from round 1 IG take efect in round 2 before range to set range to close.

Timo wrote:

Snodig wrote:

Rémi wrote:

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Yes, you can.

I thought some link above stated that immortal grapple couldn't be played in the before range phase ? (and so it would be the same for BtW ?)

As Igor points out, Immortal Grapple is played after range is set, before strikes are chosen. The question was "can I play a pre-maneuver in round two, if immortal grapple was played in round one and the range is automatically set (by IG)?".
And yes, you can. You can also do the same if range is set by Sniper Rifle, or any other effect that skips the maneuver step.

LSJ wrote:

>
> If range has been determined to be close as a result of a pre, can you
> play Immortal Prapple(and the like) in the pre-range step?

No.

This seems quite explicit to me.

Never mind that the range is set to close, you can't play an IG in pre-range.

So accordingly, I think that blood to Water works the same and can't be played in the pre-range windows no matter what.

Timo wrote:

LSJ wrote:

>
> If range has been determined to be close as a result of a pre, can you
> play Immortal Prapple(and the like) in the pre-range step?

No.

This seems quite explicit to me.

Never mind that the range is set to close, you can't play an IG in pre-range.

So accordingly, I think that blood to Water works the same and can't be played in the pre-range windows no matter what.

This is correct, you would need to wait until after pre-range to play IG.
Did I misunderstand what I said yes to earlier?

Snodig wrote:

Rémi wrote:

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Yes, you can.

if I understand correctly Rémi question, he wanted to know if the following situation was legal :
Round 1 play IG
Press
Round 2, range is automatically close
Play BtW as a before range.

And I am pretty sure it is an illegal play.