file When does Lutz ability trigger?

08 Aug 2022 18:48 - 08 Aug 2022 20:34 #105912 by Hobbesgoblin
Lutz has been originally ruled that if Lutz' was removed by the reult of a passing referendum, that his special would strill trigger.
LSJ 20090115-2

This seems to be not the case anymore with the rewording.

Since this has been (mis)interpreted in different ways all the time, I ask for a quotable clarification that Lutz' special does NOT trigger anymore, if he is removed by the effects of a referendum, be it that it was reversed, or that the ruling is moot by new cardtext.

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08 Aug 2022 20:37 #105913 by Ankha
With the updated cardtext, the check and the effect are both performed after the referendum passes, that is after resolution.
If Lutz is no longer ready at that point (because his controller got ousted by the referendum for instance), then it does not trigger.
The ruling provided is moot due to the new cardtext.

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28 Feb 2026 10:29 #116518 by Hobbesgoblin
Since you write "both performed after the referendum passes, that is after resolution" du you mean "after resolution of the referendum" or explicetly "after action resolution" here?

The latter would have inplications on order with things like voter cap.

To make it a card interaction question:

Your pred has Lutz
you are at one pool
You play a vote (lets say cold war, so it doesnt deal damage to you)
if passes with a margin of at least 1

Can you play voter cap superior to save yourself?

voter captivation

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