Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
23 Nov 2022 22:35 - 28 Nov 2022 11:26 #106861
by inm8
Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat was created by inm8
The following question arose from a discussion in the discord
Now that the card text of Cats' Guidance has changed is it possible for it to be played in the "Obedience" window (step 5 below)?
1) Vamp A bleeds
2) Vamp B blocks
3) Combat happens
4) Combat is about to end, Psyche is played
5) "Obedience" window, can Cats' Guidance be played unlocking Vamp B?
6) Psyche combat starts
If yes to the above, is the below ruling not relevant anymore?
Cats’ Guidance ruling
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Animalism
Only usable by a locked vampire who has blocked, after block resolution. Unlock this vampire.
+1 intercept.
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Animalism
Only usable by a tapped vampire immediately after he or she blocks (play after combat, if any). Untap this reacting vampire.
+1 intercept.
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
Press.
Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
Obedience ruling original
Obedience ruling latest
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Dominate
Only usable {if} this vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire.
Unlock the acting vampire and end the action. (Do not lock this vampire if they are blocking.) The acting vampire cannot take the same action this turn.
As above, but do not unlock the acting vampire.
Now that the card text of Cats' Guidance has changed is it possible for it to be played in the "Obedience" window (step 5 below)?
1) Vamp A bleeds
2) Vamp B blocks
3) Combat happens
4) Combat is about to end, Psyche is played
5) "Obedience" window, can Cats' Guidance be played unlocking Vamp B?
6) Psyche combat starts
If yes to the above, is the below ruling not relevant anymore?
Cats’ Guidance ruling
Cats' Guidance (current text)
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Animalism


Cats' Guidance (old text)
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Animalism


Psyche!
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity


Obedience ruling original
Obedience ruling latest
Obedience
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Dominate
Only usable {if} this vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire.


Last edit: 28 Nov 2022 11:26 by inm8.
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24 Nov 2022 10:32 #106864
by Snodig
Replied by Snodig on topic Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
Question also applies to gaps between two combats caused by Hidden lurker or Marie-Pierre.
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29 Nov 2022 14:57 #106892
by Snodig
Replied by Snodig on topic Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
Anyone?
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30 Nov 2022 20:26 #106906
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
No. There is no functional change.The following question arose from a discussion in the discord
Now that the card text of Cats' Guidance has changed is it possible for it to be played in the "Obedience" window (step 5 below)?
1) Vamp A bleeds
2) Vamp B blocks
3) Combat happens
4) Combat is about to end, Psyche is played
5) "Obedience" window, can Cats' Guidance be played unlocking Vamp B?
6) Psyche combat starts
Moot. The ruling still applies.If yes to the above, is the below ruling not relevant anymore?
Cats’ Guidance ruling
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30 Nov 2022 20:43 #106907
by Ankha
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Replied by Ankha on topic Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
They follow the same priority rules as any other effects sharing the same window.Question also applies to gaps between two combats caused by Hidden lurker or Marie-Pierre.
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30 Nov 2022 22:12 #106908
by inm8
Is this to be taken as there is no difference between “immediately after he or she blocks (play after combat, if any).” and “after block resolution”?
Does this ruling mean that “block resolution” encompasses all combats (block related one and Psyche related one) as part of one and the same “block resolution” and that the “block resolution” doesn’t end with the first block related combat?
Replied by inm8 on topic Cats' Guidance before Psyche! combat
No. There is no functional change.The following question arose from a discussion in the discord
Now that the card text of Cats' Guidance has changed is it possible for it to be played in the "Obedience" window (step 5 below)?
1) Vamp A bleeds
2) Vamp B blocks
3) Combat happens
4) Combat is about to end, Psyche is played
5) "Obedience" window, can Cats' Guidance be played unlocking Vamp B?
6) Psyche combat starts
Is this to be taken as there is no difference between “immediately after he or she blocks (play after combat, if any).” and “after block resolution”?
Does this ruling mean that “block resolution” encompasses all combats (block related one and Psyche related one) as part of one and the same “block resolution” and that the “block resolution” doesn’t end with the first block related combat?
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