Compromise on Villein
15 Feb 2011 21:08 #1575
by Lönkka
(& I wouldn't be surprised if some people at your playgroup also lost a relative during that conflict too)
But anyway, there's not that many in stock anymore so they won't last forever. So if they want some, they better not tarry overtly much.
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
Well, my grandfather died during Winter War...Half of our playgroop actually, when the last seller of cards ran out of stock. People just are not used to buying from forein shops. Or they are remembering the Winter war
(& I wouldn't be surprised if some people at your playgroup also lost a relative during that conflict too)
But anyway, there's not that many in stock anymore so they won't last forever. So if they want some, they better not tarry overtly much.
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15 Feb 2011 21:15 - 15 Feb 2011 21:16 #1576
by Lönkka
Especially considering the fact that you are a National Coordinator.
Whose role should be building bridges, not tearing them down!
With great power comes great responsibility..., eh?
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
Indeed so.Your decision to begin making personal attacks is unwelcome.
Especially considering the fact that you are a National Coordinator.
Whose role should be building bridges, not tearing them down!
With great power comes great responsibility..., eh?
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Last edit: 15 Feb 2011 21:16 by Lönkka.
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16 Feb 2011 05:12 #1587
by TheOperat0r
Replied by TheOperat0r on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
Hi,
If a new set was to be made, how about a card that affects villein? I am no card designer, but something that would hurt villein in some way but would not be so powerful as to cause another cycle of "[New Card] is too good!" debates.
If a new set was to be made, how about a card that affects villein? I am no card designer, but something that would hurt villein in some way but would not be so powerful as to cause another cycle of "[New Card] is too good!" debates.
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16 Feb 2011 09:04 #1598
by BeAst
Replied by BeAst on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
Personal attacks aside, the facts are these (again):
No errata'd card can be issued (due to the production cease)
Minion Tap is still playable (especially in groups with limited numbers of villein)
Villein is still available (although in dwindling numbers for new ones)
Which of the 3 necessitates a compromise?
No errata'd card can be issued (due to the production cease)
Minion Tap is still playable (especially in groups with limited numbers of villein)
Villein is still available (although in dwindling numbers for new ones)
Which of the 3 necessitates a compromise?
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16 Feb 2011 09:47 #1599
by Suoli
Somebody made a thread about errata'd cards. It's not an unreasonable solution. I disagree on point 2. I'm leaning toward agreeing on point 3 for now.
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
Personal attacks aside, the facts are these (again):
No errata'd card can be issued (due to the production cease)
Minion Tap is still playable (especially in groups with limited numbers of villein)
Villein is still available (although in dwindling numbers for new ones)
Which of the 3 necessitates a compromise?
Somebody made a thread about errata'd cards. It's not an unreasonable solution. I disagree on point 2. I'm leaning toward agreeing on point 3 for now.
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16 Feb 2011 11:09 #1601
by BeAst
Replied by BeAst on topic Re: Compromise on Villein
I agree its not an unreasonable solution to errata text, (insert usual caveats about perfect knowledge) where it's clearly necessary.
A quick search on the TWDA reveals the last use of Minion Tap was Mike Zajac's win at An Anarch Manifesto, San Jose, California on December 20, 2010. a tournament with 14 players. Prior to that Cameron Goudie's Gateway 2010 Event 4, Los Angeles, California, September 5, 2010 (13 players). More extreme - Michael Courtois' win at Gateway 2010 - Event 2, with a deck with 15 minion taps.
In fact, I count 100 odd TWDs featuring Villein since the start of 2009 (Villein first appearing at the end of 2008, IIRC) BUT 40 odd TWDs with minion taps over the same period. This suggests that not only is Minion Tap still playable in a tournament environment, but it's still in regular use.
Even though Villein is now 2.5 times as prevalent as Minion Tap, I cannot agree that it needs banning, errataing, proxying, or that it has crippled decks using Minion Tap.
A quick search on the TWDA reveals the last use of Minion Tap was Mike Zajac's win at An Anarch Manifesto, San Jose, California on December 20, 2010. a tournament with 14 players. Prior to that Cameron Goudie's Gateway 2010 Event 4, Los Angeles, California, September 5, 2010 (13 players). More extreme - Michael Courtois' win at Gateway 2010 - Event 2, with a deck with 15 minion taps.
In fact, I count 100 odd TWDs featuring Villein since the start of 2009 (Villein first appearing at the end of 2008, IIRC) BUT 40 odd TWDs with minion taps over the same period. This suggests that not only is Minion Tap still playable in a tournament environment, but it's still in regular use.
Even though Villein is now 2.5 times as prevalent as Minion Tap, I cannot agree that it needs banning, errataing, proxying, or that it has crippled decks using Minion Tap.
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