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18 Jun 2018 18:17 #88260 by self biased

However you are missing the window 'before strike resolution' in your example, so I would clarify it like this:
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I appreciate the effort, but the purpose of this thread is to answer the original question in which there is no prevention involved (otherwise, I would say that you are missing the DI window on the Blood to Water :)), not to exhaust all possible scenarios for the sake of completeness ;)


yes, but what if I'm wearing red socks at the time? :P

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19 Jun 2018 11:47 #88282 by Brum

The "then" is ambiguous because both sources of damage would be inflicted at the same time.


Hello Can-O-Worms!

Some simultaneous effects are part of the evils in sequencing in this game, imo.
E.g.: The Eternals of Sirius at 4 pool.

Can the Theft of Vitae vamp prevent the strike with a card and only after the 2 damage via the replacement?
98% sure yes.

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19 Jun 2018 16:01 - 19 Jun 2018 16:06 #88289 by ReverendRevolver

The "then" is ambiguous because both sources of damage would be inflicted at the same time.


Hello Can-O-Worms!

Some simultaneous effects are part of the evils in sequencing in this game, imo.
E.g.: The Eternals of Sirius at 4 pool.

Can the Theft of Vitae vamp prevent the strike with a card and only after the 2 damage via the replacement?
98% sure yes.


It's all at the same time, in paralel.
You can play eternals at 4 pool and gain 5. There isn't a game state chech between.
Theft goes:
Acting minion declares strikes, then other guy.
Theft at :THA: and hands 4.
2 beads move and 4 are burned in parallel, there is no time when the blood on :THA: dude is +6/-6. Strikes happen, so if he started at 2, he gains 2 burns 4 all at once.
Prevention is outside of this, and I don't understand the question. Prevention is played when you are going to take damage the card can prevent. Obviously, you can't draw Charismatic Aura off of Soak and cancel the strike you soaked, it's out of sequence as the strike was resolved/resolving when the CA was drawn. Cancels should also happen before strike addons are played, so Death Seeker goes before Target Vitals, or less often seen, it would need to cancel :OBF: disguised weapon before the flamethrower is played, but that's typically a fault on the :OBF: player playing both at once (and again, it's only legal in you have the weapon in hand when you play disguised weapon, but if you draw ivory bow off DW you aren't obligated to play flamethrower since you now have another option. )

What was the draw to replace confusion?

Also, if Matthias plays Anaesthetic Touch while opposing minion has out crows/Groaning Corpse, he takes no damage, correct?
:obe: Strike: hand strike. Combat ends immediately after the resolution of this strike.
:OBE: As [obe] above, with first strike.

Same thing with Ruth Mcginley shooting a DBR Saturday night Special at someone? (First Strike Agg)

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20 Jun 2018 07:48 #88304 by Ankha


Also, if Matthias plays Anaesthetic Touch while opposing minion has out crows/Groaning Corpse, he takes no damage, correct?
:obe: Strike: hand strike. Combat ends immediately after the resolution of this strike.
:OBE: As [obe] above, with first strike.

At superior Obeah, he takes no damage because Groaning Corpse inflicts its damage during the "normal strike resolution".

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20 Jun 2018 09:54 #88308 by Khalid1988

Cancels should also happen before strike addons are played, so Death Seeker goes before Target Vitals, or less often seen, it would need to cancel :OBF: disguised weapon before the flamethrower is played, but that's typically a fault on the :OBF: player playing both at once (and again, it's only legal in you have the weapon in hand when you play disguised weapon, but if you draw ivory bow off DW you aren't obligated to play flamethrower since you now have another option. )


Oh, is this correct as well? I was under impression that you couldn't try to be lucky with drawing a weapon if you didn't already have a weapon in your hand when Disguised/Concealed Weapon is played? This opens card cycling opportunities. :)

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20 Jun 2018 10:57 #88309 by Kraus
Pay attention, young prince: the quote says:

"--and again, it's only legal in you have the weapon in hand when you play disguised weapon, but if you draw ivory bow off DW you aren't obligated to play flamethrower since you now have another option."

You do need A weapon, but you don't need to equip with THE weapon. :) No tricky cycling.

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