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22 Nov 2011 19:50 #15546 by echiang
Replied by echiang on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".

Actually I'd take it further and say that if you had a deck list for every deck that was at every tournament, it still wouldn't be representative of the decks played in casual play. That doesn't make the TWDA worthless as a tool though, you just have to be aware of it with any conclusions you draw.

Anyway, we're digressing from the point. The important point is don't ban or change Tudog. :)

I agree with both points! B)
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24 Nov 2011 06:43 #15726 by Lucas Halton
Replied by Lucas Halton on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".
Just leave the card alone. :)

Everyone hates a Tupdog Deck as Prey or Predator.
But you also hear a *sigh* everytime Arika, Una, Cybele, Nergal, Nana, Malk S&B, Giovanni Power Bleed, Garous, Mages or Shambler show up.

It is just a part of the game to be complaining. :) Why else should you team up with your crosstable buddy and search for solutions of getting the situation under your control. ;)

Stop your whining and just play the game. :D
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26 Nov 2011 19:14 - 26 Nov 2011 19:15 #16070 by Joscha
Replied by Joscha on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".
A good discussion, guys, but I did not see many change propositions. My bad? Please help me find them.

Poll options so far:

a) No change.
b) Let the special about moving the top cryptcard only work while ready.
c) Change Tupdog's cap to 2 or 3.
d) Ban the card.

Right?
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26 Nov 2011 19:35 #16076 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".
Change cap to 2 i'd say.
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27 Nov 2011 08:53 #16148 by Joscha
Replied by Joscha on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".

But you also hear a *sigh* everytime Arika, Una, Cybele, Nergal, Nana, Malk S&B, Giovanni Power Bleed, Garous, Mages or Shambler show up.

In my playgroup you hear players sigh *regardless* of what you bring up :laugh: . And if you bring nothing up they also sigh, because you don't spend pool and it is harder to oust you.
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27 Nov 2011 10:18 #16160 by johannes
Replied by johannes on topic Re: On Tupdog 7. "problematic card".
I am surprised Tupdog even comes up here. I don´t think it is overpowered, I have seen many Tupdog decks in action, they can work great but they also tend to miserably fail because every rush costs pool and if they don´t work out then you die.

A Tupog deck in the hands of a tactically unsavy player can be annoying because it will tilt the table in one direction quickly. But so does a weenie-POT, Computer Hackin bleed or any other sort of extreme deck. It is the nature of the multiplayer game and over many games you will be as much on the losing side of this as on the winning.
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