\'Avenger\' Time Management Co.

Very interesting deck! I've been trying a short-ish combo with some success, I need to proxy the right amount of each:

A Trujah does something blockable. Easy enough. a vampire blocks you, Domain of Evernight + OtH + Decapitate + Taste to burn the blocking vamp and get your 2 blood back all prerange. Pros: negates the need for Grapple + manuever. Saves your Pockets out of Time for stealth instead of the Psyche effect. Negates S:CE. Cons: You need to be blocked. Allies don't care. Requires a 4-card combo. What do you think?

Well, Allies care all about Outside the Hourglass. Most allies die screaming horribly to a single OtH. Ossian and some other very resilient werewolves, as well as Warghouls, are the only allies that can deal with non-dodgeable 2 damage.

Thanks for the input, though.

The final was on Friday, and I got the most VPs I've ever had in a tournament: 7VP 2GW! And it was SO close to being a lot more. The last game was very, very tight and I was inches away from being ousted. I got all my 3VP+GW in the last 3 minutes. The first two games were basically mine - non-existent combat, only a few combat ends here and there. I needed to give away two VPs to my Grand Prey, though, just to keep me alive, since I couldn't double oust on this one turn due to bad draws.

The second game should've been mine, definitely, but once again my hand was jammed with Disarms instead of Outsides (I played 7 disarms), and Avenger was Banished. So much for that game. Was very frustrating, but the end game was great fun, and with the unexpected GW from the last game (I was sitting behind Eric(?)'s Anson Ashurs with guns *shudder*) I eventually was very close to being in the finals.

Final standing for me was 7th in a 40-50 player tournament. Can't really tell how many players we had, but I think the last table was numbered 12 or 13. We'll know for sure once Orava posts the Archon.

I'm in a hurry, so I can't ramble more right now, but if people're interested I can answer questions or write some more in-depth reports of my games in the tournament.

But yeah, AK wasn't that good this time, and I'll need to get way more Outsides. Anarch Revolts were fine.

Kraus wrote:

Well, Allies care all about Outside the Hourglass. Most allies die screaming horribly to a single OtH. Ossian and some other very resilient werewolves, as well as Warghouls, are the only allies that can deal with non-dodgeable 2 damage.

Nephandus can also take it, mind.

Alex wrote:

Very interesting deck! I've been trying a short-ish combo with some success, I need to proxy the right amount of each:

A Trujah does something blockable. Easy enough. a vampire blocks you, Domain of Evernight + OtH + Decapitate + Taste to burn the blocking vamp and get your 2 blood back all prerange. Pros: negates the need for Grapple + manuever. Saves your Pockets out of Time for stealth instead of the Psyche effect. Negates S:CE. Cons: You need to be blocked. Allies don't care. Requires a 4-card combo. What do you think?

Disarms are infinitely more reliable as a plan A. That doesn't mean you can't play Domains in the same deck for the untap and occasionally punish blockers with it, just don't build your deck around the assumption that your opponents will make poor decisions.

Kraus wrote:

I'm in a hurry, so I can't ramble more right now, but if people're interested I can answer questions or write some more in-depth reports of my games in the tournament.

How did you deal with Disarmed vampires with lots of blood? Diablerie with weenies?

How important is the single Preternatural Strength? Would you consider a second copy (or a Heroic Might)?

Did you get good value out of
1) Carver's
2) Path of the Scorched Heart
3) Mylan
4) Ossian
5) Clotho's Gift?

Suoli wrote:

Kraus wrote:

I'm in a hurry, so I can't ramble more right now, but if people're interested I can answer questions or write some more in-depth reports of my games in the tournament.

How did you deal with Disarmed vampires with lots of blood? Diablerie with weenies?

Diablerie with either Avenger or a Caitiff. I did this in the third game, as pretty much ruined my Predator's game from the start. That gave me plenty of room to play my own game, but Anson was horrible, and I was scared to death about my Grand Predator's and Grand Prey's bleeds being bounced to me.

Usually just making a deal or bleeding the edge to... well, give me the edge helps with diableries. Smaller vampires I just left in the torpor, and had to pound them back in again. This becomes easier once the table as a whole is growing low on blood.

How important is the single Preternatural Strength? Would you consider a second copy (or a Heroic Might)?

Not very. It's a nice addition, but eventually Outsides are the ones that deal damage, and disarm wrecks games. I'm not about to take it out, since it's so much cheaper than an AK, but I'll definitely use only a single AK in the future. It's just a (costly, but effective) plan B, and another one clogged my hand a couple of times.

Did you get good value out of
1) Carver's
2) Path of the Scorched Heart
3) Mylan
4) Ossian
5) Clotho's Gift?

1) Not really. Even though it's (theoretically) awesome, I just happened to draw it a bit too late every time. In practice games I had it in my opening hand and it saved me some trouble. I'm wondering is another taste or a Perfectionist would serve better. Carver potentially wrecks a weenie approach of any kind anyone else is playing.
2) Definitely. It's basically a free action that has so many benefits it's just grand. I didn't get to use it, since in the second game I didn't draw it, and in the third game I just didn't want to to cross table rush Lutz. I could've, and was thinking about it, but I was thinking that the Lasombra bleeders even further from me were more of a threat.
3) An infinte yes to this one. Mylan's awesome.
4) This one's a big (?). Probably Ossian is just too costly. I didn't recruit him during the tournament, but he COULD be a great addition in the end game if I get some free time/actions/pool. Which I probably usually won't... But no, didn't use him in the tournament.
5) In one game, yes. If I get my blood running, the extra untap's okay. In other games I didn't draw it early enough.

So basically Mylan and Path are a 'must' addition, Clotho's Gift is good enough to be there (and isn't really a bother), but Ossian might need to go. I wouldn't take Carver out just yet.