file Thatre - Hector and Friends

02 Aug 2012 23:24 - 02 Aug 2012 23:26 #34226 by Mael

with the following, what is the chance of NOT getting hector?

1x Alfred Benezri ADV 7 aus dom PRE THA Pander:3
1x Alfred Benezri 6 aus dom PRE THA Pander:3
1x Ardan Lane 8 dom obf pre AUS THA Tremere:3
1x Cohn Rose 5 aus dom pre THA Tremere:3
4x Hector Trelane 5 dom nec AUS THA Tremere:4
1x Lucubratio 10 AUS DOM POT PRE THA !Tremere:4
2x Malgorzata 9 pre AUS DOM THA VIC !Tremere:4
1x Menele 10 aus dom CEL POT PRE THA Brujah:3
1x Paul Cordwood 8 obf pre AUS DOM THA !Tremere:4
1x Yasmin the Black 6 dom pre AUS THA !Tremere:3

It's the odds that the first vampire isn't the star, times the odds that the second also isn't, etc. So (10/14)*(9/13)*(8/12)*(7/11) Which is about 20%. 4 of the star in a 12 vampire crypt, or 5 in 13, is what is normally recommended, with a few wider view to change any surplus into something else.

For this version I'd try to keep the others to 6 - 8 caps with DOM. That way you can bring out someone other than Hector first in two turns, then govern onto Hector on turn 3.

Edit: also, you changed your numbers while I was typing, but use the above technique to find any probability answers you need :)
Or it you use a 12 or 13 vampire crypt FELDB will work out the odds for you.
Last edit: 02 Aug 2012 23:26 by Mael.

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02 Aug 2012 23:50 #34228 by Klaital
Well I would say you have absolutely no need to have that big crypt with this deck, 12 should be just fine, cut out all the big lugs. Second, with all that combat you need rushes. Cauldron of Blood is just terrible, Blood Fury is better if you want some hand strikes as it at least can't be prevented. Also with all those second round strikes you might want to consider some shotgun rituals so others than Hector can fight too.

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03 Aug 2012 00:27 - 03 Aug 2012 02:51 #34229 by mirddes
Crypt (Capacity min=5 max=10 avg=7.07; 15 cards)
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1x Alfred Benezri ADV 7 aus dom PRE THA Pander:3
1x Alfred Benezri 6 aus dom PRE THA Pander:3
1x Ardan Lane 8 dom obf pre AUS THA Tremere:3
5x Hector Trelane 5 dom nec AUS THA Tremere:4
1x Lucubratio 10 AUS DOM POT PRE THA !Tremere:4
4x Malgorzata 9 pre AUS DOM THA VIC !Tremere:4
1x Paul Cordwood 8 obf pre AUS DOM THA !Tremere:4
1x Yasmin the Black 6 dom pre AUS THA !Tremere:3

dont see it getting any smaller, all the odd ducks are gone.
alfred is a great bleeder/diablerist
malgorzata cleans up my crypt
ardan lane is a good option for vessels, minion taps
lububratio is a great blocker
Hector is THE blocker, manuver away every time, with reactionary strikes i can dodge long range agg in a pinch. always hit back hard.
if someone goes after hector, ill block the attempt with someone else.
paul acts well with +1stealth, with impunity, and blocks in a pinch


cauldron of blood hits harder than blood fury, steals cannot be prevented, i have plenty of options for vamps that prevent. would rather hit harder otherwise.
Last edit: 03 Aug 2012 02:51 by mirddes.

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03 Aug 2012 02:59 - 03 Aug 2012 07:05 #34230 by mirddes
11 bleeds for a maximum of 6 blood costing 2 blood
7 bleed bounce
18 cards giving intercept, 4 tapable locations, maximum 11 including paul.
17 untaps, inc deflection, majesty + lucabratio,
12 manuvers, 4 prevents, 3 dodges, 5 S:CE, 8 steal, 6 agg (38 ways to preserve my minsions in combat)
22 blood/pool management cards

master cards costing 19 pool, plenty of pool gain potential though.
Last edit: 03 Aug 2012 07:05 by mirddes.

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09 Nov 2012 03:37 - 11 Nov 2012 05:18 #40680 by mirddes
done some thinking, HERE IS WHAT I GOT


Deck Name: trelane and friends
Author:
Description:
cards i actually have

Crypt (Capacity min=5 max=8 avg=6.5; 12 cards)
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1x Ardan Lane 8 dom obf pre AUS THA Tremere:3
1x Carna, The Princess Witch 7 AUS DOM THA Tremere:3
5x Hector Trelane 5 dom nec AUS THA Tremere:4
2x Paul Cordwood 8 obf pre AUS DOM THA !Tremere:4
1x Selena 6 AUS DOM THA !Tremere:3
2x Uta Kovacs 8 ser AUS DOM THA !Tremere:4

Library (90 cards)
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Master (12 cards)
1x Academic Hunting Ground
4x Blood Doll
1x Channel 10
1x Club Zombie
1x KRCG News Radio
1x University Hunting Ground
2x Vessel
1x WMRH Talk Radio

Action (9 cards)
7x Govern the Unaligned
2x Rutor's Hand

Equipment (9 cards)
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Helicopter
5x Leather Jacket
1x Palatial Estate
1x Ruins of Ceoris

Action Modifier (10 cards)
4x Bonding
6x Mirror Walk

Reaction (18 cards)
5x Deflection
4x Enhanced Senses
6x On the Qui Vive
3x Precognition

Combat (32 cards)
6x Apportation
4x Drain Essence
4x Rego Motus
8x Theft of Vitae
8x Walk of Flame
2x Weather Control

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Nov 11, 2012 08:17:08)
Last edit: 11 Nov 2012 05:18 by mirddes.

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12 Nov 2012 22:11 #40835 by mirddes
can someone please identify any obvious flaws with what i am doing

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