Saulot - Neutral Guard

Base of the deck is synergy between Saulot disciplines and tremere antitribu vampires with infernal pact for obeah. Thx to this most problems typical to star decks (only one vampire capable of playing most cards, burning of star minion) are solved. That's one thing, another is Saulot which is simply amazing minion.
I feel that deck could be thinner, but I'm not sure what can be removed.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 14, Max: 44, Avg: 7,5)

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1 Ember Wright aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Frondator dom tha AUS 5 Tremere Antitribu
1 Keith Moody DOM 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Ladislas Toth for AUS DOM THA7 Tremere Antitribu
1 Paul Cordwood obf pre AUS DOM THA8 Tremere Antitribu
1 Saiz aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
5 Saulot AUS dai FOR OBE THA VAL11 Salubri
1 Selena AUS DOM THA 6 Tremere Antitribu

Library: (82 cards)

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Master (16 cards)
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Giant`s Blood
4 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
3 Infernal Pact
1 Lilith's Blessing
2 Pentex Subversion
2 Villein
1 Wider View

Action (15 cards)
1 Abbot
2 Magic of the Smith
12 Spirit Marionette

Action Modifier (25 cards)
4 Conditioning
1 Enkil Cog
1 Foreshadowing Destruction
7 Freak Drive
5 Mirror Walk
3 Neutral Guard
4 Repulsion

Reaction (15 cards)
3 Deflection
2 Delaying Tactics
6 Eyes of Argus
2 My Enemy`s Enemy
2 Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (5 cards)
5 Anesthetic Touch

Ally (2 cards)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

Equipment (4 cards)
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Heart of Nizchetus
1 Ivory Bow
1 Ruins of Ceoris

1. How do you intend to oust?
By bleeding stubbornly for medium to high amount each turn while my prey's minions are tapped
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Defending with light intercept and bounce.
Making pool with Saulot special.
Damaging my predator's offense capabilities with spirit marionette
3.What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Saulot and 2-3 tremere antitribu. One of them with inferal pact.
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Steal vampire or two from my prey/predator with spirit marionettes. Transfer blood/stuff with heidelberg. Bleed with marionettes and/or conditionings.
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Everything goes.
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
playing against AUS CEL guns which can tap all his minions in his turn and still be able to untap & intercept my actions during my turn

6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
playing against AUS CEL guns which can tap all his minions in his turn and still be able to untap & intercept my actions during my turn

You could play Flames of the Netherworld instead of Anesthetic Touch. Normal Gundecks don't play many Dodges or prevention because they rely more on their maneuvers to be safe from harm. So doing long range agg. damage could be the counter to this. Your Ruins of Ceoris goes will with that too. Of course without a maneuver it is useless for your common !Tremere. But AT is it actually too, because a dodge only on close isn't that huge.

I play more Neutral Guard and most importang Renewed Vigor. Saulot transferring down all the time and then filled up again is huge. Of course you can feed him with the Heidelurg too, but if you get only dry minions with the Marionette it's bad. I threw in many Bleedretainers because with Heidelberg you can swap them around and exploit them to a maximum. Or you get them with Saulot from others, Freak Drive, bleed with Neutral Guard (get burned by AI, yay).

I rely mainly on the 6-caps because you can easily get them out after the two blood on them from Saulot.

I just post it, but beware, it's some years old.

Deck Name: Saulot`s Army
Created By: Joscha Düll
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 21, Max: 44, Avg: 7,41)
1 Elena Mendoza Vasquez dom obt AUS THA 6 Tremere Antitribu
1 Eugenio Estevez AUS dom for THA 6 Tremere
3 Eurayle Gelasia Mylonas for pre AUS OBE 6 Salubri
1 Martin Franckel tha AUS 3 Tremere
4 Saulot AUS dai FOR OBE THA VAL 11 Salubri
1 Selena AUS DOM THA 6 Tremere Antitribu
1 Yasmin the Black dom pre AUS THA 6 Tremere Antitribu

Library: (80 cards)

Master (15 cards)
1 Blood Doll
1 Depravity
2 Direct Intervention
1 Giant's Blood
4 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2 Infernal Pact
1 Rotschreck
1 Sight Beyond Sight
2 Sudden Reversal

Action (16 cards)
1 Pulse of the Canaille
5 Renewed Vigor
2 Rutor`s Hand
8 Spirit Marionette

Action Modifier (19 cards)
2 Daring the Dawn (against Pentex for Eurayle, don't know)
6 Freak Drive
6 Neutral Guard
5 Repulsion

Reaction (11 cards)
2 Enhanced Senses
1 Glare of Lies
2 My Enemy`s Enemy
2 Telepathic Counter
4 Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (13 cards) pre-HTTB
5 Anesthetic Touch
3 Conflagration
2 Pulled Fangs
3 Theft of Vitae

Ally (1 cards)
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

Retainer (4 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Mr. Winthrop
1 Robert Carter
1 Tasha Morgan

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Guarded Rubrics

Spirit Marionette-strategies benefit greatly from Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers.

Since Infernal Pact is unique, I'd be tempted to replace one of them with a Sanguine Instruction. Or maybe an Infernal Familiar. Either way it costs you an action, but that may be better than having duplicates of Heidelburg and Infernal Pact jamming up your hand.

I give a thumbs up to Joscha's Flames of the Netherworld suggestion - your Tremere antitribu can use against guns or if they get the Ruins or some other maneuver, and Saulot can use the basic version.

You could play Flames of the Netherworld instead of Anesthetic Touch

That's would be good response for gun decks, but probably weaker than AT versus other decks. Nevertheless, I'll try this. I'm wondering as well about few theft of vitae which is more versatile than flames and AT, but didn't give answer to immortall grapple. On the other hand no combat at all (only ivory bow, maybe sniper rifle) may be good as well. Does any one tried such options?

I play more Neutral Guard and most importang Renewed Vigor

It's clearly powerfull, but I'm not sure if it's really needed. 2-3 copies could be good, but I don't know what should be removed instead.

I threw in many Bleedretainers because with Heidelberg you can swap them around

I prefer action modifiers. Heidelberg is often used to transfer blood and stuff from borrowed minions so there is no opportunity to use it for transfering retainers between my minions. And recruting them cost an action.

3 Eurayle Gelasia Mylonas for pre AUS OBE 6 Salubri

What were your experiences playing with her? It seems good to have third minion with OBE and her special is very good with marionetes, but paying 9 pool for it is huge. Wasn't that a problem?

Spirit Marionette-strategies benefit greatly from Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers.

yes and no. Sometimes you just want to bleed at stealth and then -2 stealth is a big problem. Still, it's worth trying.

Since Infernal Pact is unique, I'd be tempted to replace one of them with a Sanguine Instruction.

Sanguine instruction can be played only on a vampire from the same clan, so it's not an option. Duplicates are a little problematic, but having infernal pact and heidelberg quickly is essential so there is no space for compromise here. And people play more suddens/washes these days so additional copies could be handy.

alek wrote:

3 Eurayle Gelasia Mylonas for pre AUS OBE 6 Salubri

What were your experiences playing with her? It seems good to have third minion with OBE and her special is very good with marionetes, but paying 9 pool for it is huge. Wasn't that a problem?

It was okay because of the pool pumping Saulot. As I play with Renewed Vigor it was good to have her to fill up Saulot reliable without the need of playing an Infernal Pact before. She is my only defence against Pentex Subversion by the way, as she can play the Daring the Dawns.