Poison Pill -clarification
01 Apr 2012 11:42 #26994
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
Oh yeah misread that part. Well that would then make it fairly weird play on C's behalf, giving someone else a free victory point.

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01 Apr 2012 12:15 #26997
by Ohlmann
Then again, we don't have the full picture. I suppose C were trying to make the vote fail, but the other methuselah finally decided to oust A
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
Oh yeah misread that part. Well that would then make it fairly weird play on C's behalf, giving someone else a free victory point.
Then again, we don't have the full picture. I suppose C were trying to make the vote fail, but the other methuselah finally decided to oust A

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01 Apr 2012 18:53 #27008
by yappo
Replied by yappo on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
Same with Ancient Influence. PP hits the acting Meth for five pool.
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01 Apr 2012 20:55 - 01 Apr 2012 20:58 #27012
by jamesatzephyr
Possibly less, if the relevant Methuselah has less than five pool.
For example, Parity Shift for 5 against a Methuselah who has 2 pool is legal. (As in, there are five players in the game, so Parity Shift attempts to take 5 pool.) That's confirmed in [LSJ 20070525]
In that situation, Poison Pill will hit for 2 pool, not the 5 pool that was tried for. [LSJ 20090909]
So it appears that the rule is that Poison Pill notes how many counters you actually lose, rather than how many the effect wants to hit you for (which matters when ousted).
I can't find anyone asking the question directly, which is odd as I would have expected it to come up.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
Same with Ancient Influence. PP hits the acting Meth for five pool.
Possibly less, if the relevant Methuselah has less than five pool.
For example, Parity Shift for 5 against a Methuselah who has 2 pool is legal. (As in, there are five players in the game, so Parity Shift attempts to take 5 pool.) That's confirmed in [LSJ 20070525]
In that situation, Poison Pill will hit for 2 pool, not the 5 pool that was tried for. [LSJ 20090909]
So it appears that the rule is that Poison Pill notes how many counters you actually lose, rather than how many the effect wants to hit you for (which matters when ousted).
I can't find anyone asking the question directly, which is odd as I would have expected it to come up.
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01 Apr 2012 21:53 #27014
by Haze
Replied by Haze on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
I think that ruling might only apply to Parity Shift, because it is not causing a pool burn but specifically targeting "X of his or her pool" so it can not affect negative pool. for the same reason, parity shifting someone who has 2 pool means you can only allocate 2 pool to yourself.
but you can use Reckless Agitation to burn 5 pool from someone who has 2, and if someone wants to play Life Boon they must still cover the -3 deficit.
but you can use Reckless Agitation to burn 5 pool from someone who has 2, and if someone wants to play Life Boon they must still cover the -3 deficit.
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02 Apr 2012 05:46 #27019
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Poison Pill -clarification
Correct answers. If the card reads "gains X and burn Y", you effectively burn Y (notice most of the cards that actually have players gain and lose pool are worded so that they first gain and then lose).
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