Call of the Great Beast and self-contest

mipopo3 wrote:

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Regarding wording "action to bring a vampire in to play", I would like to call BS on this, as I have not seen this used in any card text (excluding Summoning History) and the rulebook in any shape or form, thus making this ruling from 2010 moot in today's game. ...

Except it is not moot is it not, we have

Ankha wrote:

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BTW, all LSJ/Floppy rulings are valid, unless there's a more recent official ruling saying otherwise. I'm not sure why we would need a further confirmation.

There are no recent official rulings saying it is no longer valid. You can see the first Ankha reply on this topic has not been changed or edited. The 2010 ruling stands until it no longer does thanks to it receiving a REVERSAL. That won't happen by arguing in a rules question thread.

Just because you did not realize what making a vampire action is, does not mean it's not a thing that's been in the game ever since you could make vampires with actions. The Whole sterile mechanic is dependent on being restrictive over that action type. groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/3jinbBVvqIE/m/9QaMi2N1VeoJ

Call the Great Beast is doable. But the Sterile vampire cannot take the
final action that would make a vampire, so it's kinda pointless.
(Which keeps the ickyness of the prohibition on 11-cap steriles).

www.vekn.net/rulebook

Sterile: Sterile vampires cannot perform actions to put other vampires in play.

Kilrauko wrote:

www.vekn.net/rulebook

Sterile: Sterile vampires cannot perform actions to put other vampires in play.

Thanks for making my case for me.

All other cards regarding sterile vampires were updated, to contain "Requires a non-sterile".
And "actions to put other vampires in play" is only there as a reminder, not any real explanation, what i was referring to. That there is no explanation for what is an action to put a vampire in play is.
In this regard, Summoning History on superior cant be played by sterile vampire!?


This is a clear case on text update for Call the Great Beast in needed.

Like i mentioned, it was a rule that was not finished, or it was reworded and lost. Thus it need a ruling update and as we can see, card text update.