First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
10 Dec 2012 18:28 #42658
by SClaytonU
First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts? was created by SClaytonU
Deck Name: Tzimisce Catch
Author: SClaytonU
Description:
My first take on a basic Tzimisce wall deck. Both the library and crypt reflect cards I currently own or can easily obtain.
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=10 avg=7)
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2x Anton 8 cel obf vic ANI AUS Tzimisce:2
2x Corine Marcón 6 ani AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Devin Bisley 5 vic ANI AUS Tzimisce:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
2x Lambach 10 pre ANI AUS DOM VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Lolita Houston 4 aus VIC Tzimisce:2
2x Meshenka 8 ANI AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Stravinsky 9 pot ANI AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
Library (90 cards)
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Master (16)
1x Fame
1x Festivo dello Estinto
1x Giant's Blood
1x Haven Affinity
1x Library Hunting Ground
1x Minion Tap
1x Path of Metamorphosis, The
1x Powerbase: Barranquilla
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
5x Vessel
1x Vicissitude
Action (5)
3x Govern the Unaligned
2x Pulse of the Canaille
Equipment (3)
2x Leather Jacket
1x Living Manse
Retainer (6)
2x Corpse Balloon
4x Revenant
Action Modifier (3)
3x Changeling
Reaction (31)
3x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight
2x Enhanced Senses
3x Fast Reaction
6x Forced Awakening
2x Guard Dogs
2x Instinctive Reaction
3x Precognition
3x Spirit's Touch
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (26)
1x Blood of Acid
5x Carrion Crows
5x Chiropteran Marauder
5x Horrid Form
5x Scorpion Sting
5x Starvation of Marena
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Dec 10, 2012 21:09:38)
Author: SClaytonU
Description:
My first take on a basic Tzimisce wall deck. Both the library and crypt reflect cards I currently own or can easily obtain.
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=10 avg=7)
=============================================
2x Anton 8 cel obf vic ANI AUS Tzimisce:2
2x Corine Marcón 6 ani AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Devin Bisley 5 vic ANI AUS Tzimisce:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
2x Lambach 10 pre ANI AUS DOM VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Lolita Houston 4 aus VIC Tzimisce:2
2x Meshenka 8 ANI AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
1x Stravinsky 9 pot ANI AUS VIC Tzimisce:2
Library (90 cards)
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Master (16)
1x Fame
1x Festivo dello Estinto
1x Giant's Blood
1x Haven Affinity
1x Library Hunting Ground
1x Minion Tap
1x Path of Metamorphosis, The
1x Powerbase: Barranquilla
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
5x Vessel
1x Vicissitude
Action (5)
3x Govern the Unaligned
2x Pulse of the Canaille
Equipment (3)
2x Leather Jacket
1x Living Manse
Retainer (6)
2x Corpse Balloon
4x Revenant
Action Modifier (3)
3x Changeling
Reaction (31)
3x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight
2x Enhanced Senses
3x Fast Reaction
6x Forced Awakening
2x Guard Dogs
2x Instinctive Reaction
3x Precognition
3x Spirit's Touch
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (26)
1x Blood of Acid
5x Carrion Crows
5x Chiropteran Marauder
5x Horrid Form
5x Scorpion Sting
5x Starvation of Marena
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Dec 10, 2012 21:09:38)
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10 Dec 2012 18:42 #42662
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
Some Abbot would be wonderful for the deck.
Blood of acid is way too expensive to be good ; you can keep in x1 because it's fun, but it's only for fun.
Scorpion Sting is weak, not unplayable, but I don't find it worth the trouble. If you have more Chiroptean Marauder it would be a good fit. Breath of the dragon is another good fit
I would replace the govern by, well, anything else. For example, Fiendish Tongue. Only Lambach can play the govern, and he is only in x2 in your crypt. If you had 5 of them, it would be possible.
remove Haven Affinity. It's REALLY weak. If you have more Path of meta, it could be a good swap, since Horrid form is really stronger when you don't pay blood for it.
Blood of acid is way too expensive to be good ; you can keep in x1 because it's fun, but it's only for fun.
Scorpion Sting is weak, not unplayable, but I don't find it worth the trouble. If you have more Chiroptean Marauder it would be a good fit. Breath of the dragon is another good fit
I would replace the govern by, well, anything else. For example, Fiendish Tongue. Only Lambach can play the govern, and he is only in x2 in your crypt. If you had 5 of them, it would be possible.
remove Haven Affinity. It's REALLY weak. If you have more Path of meta, it could be a good swap, since Horrid form is really stronger when you don't pay blood for it.
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10 Dec 2012 19:34 #42663
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
^^^
What ohlman said.
Plus, Pulse is very bad for tzimitze, as it drains their blood. I found living manses (if you have them), much, much better, with a nifty side effect that can save your skin when in a fight you do not want to be in.
I would remove that sole minion tap, as well as vicissitude master, add rack for it to help bloating and blood inflow, and a rotshreck.
Also, i would remove fast reactions (quite bad) for telepathic trackings, and instinctive reactions (quite bad) and one spirit's touch for 3 more telepathic misdirections.
I would also cut Anton and replace them with Caliban I(which has all superior disciplines) and is a 6-cap.
Also, you are missing Bowl of convergence, that is huge.
But the skeleton of the deck and idea is good and sound, which is rarely seen on first post in forums. Very nice!
What ohlman said.
Plus, Pulse is very bad for tzimitze, as it drains their blood. I found living manses (if you have them), much, much better, with a nifty side effect that can save your skin when in a fight you do not want to be in.
I would remove that sole minion tap, as well as vicissitude master, add rack for it to help bloating and blood inflow, and a rotshreck.
Also, i would remove fast reactions (quite bad) for telepathic trackings, and instinctive reactions (quite bad) and one spirit's touch for 3 more telepathic misdirections.
I would also cut Anton and replace them with Caliban I(which has all superior disciplines) and is a 6-cap.
Also, you are missing Bowl of convergence, that is huge.
But the skeleton of the deck and idea is good and sound, which is rarely seen on first post in forums. Very nice!







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10 Dec 2012 20:41 #42666
by Poci
Replied by Poci on topic Re: First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
In our country, the tzimisce wall is a feared and well-known deck, but it barely resembles to your variant. Transient intercept is all that is used, barely a few actions (only 2 in the classic variant) and aggropoke, with rötschreks. That's the most card efficient combat package you can have. Also, Caliban should replace anton, and john paleologus or velya should replace stravinsky. By the way, where are the eyes of arguses? Army of rats?
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10 Dec 2012 20:51 #42667
by ICL
Given limitations on options and not knowing what those limitations are, my comments will only be on what to remove. I will mostly use the strike through function.
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Master (16)
1x Fame
1xFestivo dello Estinto
1x Giant's Blood
1xHaven Affinity
1x Library Hunting Ground
1x Minion Tap
1x Path of Metamorphosis, The
1x Powerbase: Barranquilla
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
5x Vessel
1x Vicissitude
Action (5)
3xGovern the Unaligned
2x Pulse of the Canaille
One Pulse doesn't bother me, assuming no access to vastly better cards like J.S. Simmons, Tasha Morgan, Living Manse, Camera Phone.
Equipment (3)
2x Leather Jacket
1x Living Manse
Retainer (6)
2x Corpse Balloon
4x Revenant
I'm constantly amazed by how much play Revenant gets, but if you don't have Mr. Winthrop, one copy adds some possibly desirable permacept.
Action Modifier (3)
3x Changeling
Reaction (31)
3x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight
2x Enhanced Senses
3xFast Reaction
6x Forced Awakening
2x Guard Dogs
2x Instinctive Reaction
3x Precognition
3x Spirit's Touch
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (26)
1xBlood of Acid
5x Carrion Crows
5x Chiropteran Marauder
5x Horrid Form
5x Scorpion Sting
5x Starvation of Marena
Should be down to 77 cards if all of these are removed. Since I can't stand weird numbers for deck sizes, I'd look to pull two more cards, but that's me and you probably have stuff that wouldn't make this too bloated at 80, if you wanted to go bigger.
Replied by ICL on topic Re: First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
Deck Name: Tzimisce Catch
Author: SClaytonU
Description:
My first take on a basic Tzimisce wall deck. Both the library and crypt reflect cards I currently own or can easily obtain.
Given limitations on options and not knowing what those limitations are, my comments will only be on what to remove. I will mostly use the strike through function.
==================
Master (16)
1x Fame
1x
1x Giant's Blood
1x
1x Library Hunting Ground
1x Minion Tap
1x Path of Metamorphosis, The
1x Powerbase: Barranquilla
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
5x Vessel
1x Vicissitude
Action (5)
3x
One Pulse doesn't bother me, assuming no access to vastly better cards like J.S. Simmons, Tasha Morgan, Living Manse, Camera Phone.
Equipment (3)
2x Leather Jacket
1x Living Manse
Retainer (6)
2x Corpse Balloon
I'm constantly amazed by how much play Revenant gets, but if you don't have Mr. Winthrop, one copy adds some possibly desirable permacept.
Action Modifier (3)
3x Changeling
Reaction (31)
3x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight
2x Enhanced Senses
3x
6x Forced Awakening
2x Guard Dogs
2x Instinctive Reaction
3x Precognition
3x Spirit's Touch
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Combat (26)
1x
5x Carrion Crows
5x Chiropteran Marauder
5x Horrid Form
5x Scorpion Sting
5x Starvation of Marena
Should be down to 77 cards if all of these are removed. Since I can't stand weird numbers for deck sizes, I'd look to pull two more cards, but that's me and you probably have stuff that wouldn't make this too bloated at 80, if you wanted to go bigger.
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10 Dec 2012 20:53 #42668
by ruiza97
He probably doesn't have any.
Prince of Dallas
Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas
August 13, 2022
Replied by ruiza97 on topic Re: First Tzimisce Intercept Deck - Thoughts?
By the way, where are the eyes of arguses?
He probably doesn't have any.
Prince of Dallas
Toreador Grand Ball: Dallas
August 13, 2022
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