Trying again to TWD with mill + brinkmanship !! Help !!

I still think the master section is still too large and not all the cards there are needed for your purpose, they slow you down and cost a lot of pool still if you do not get an early Therbold Realty.

As Ankha said, it is cool if you can pull off Brinksmanship oust but in many games you need to be flexible and change the plan to get your VP.

Suggestion to make it more like a wall deck:

-3 Parthenon, The
-2 Therbold Realty
- 1 Bleeding the Vine (costs too much pool to use)
- 1/2 Protected Resources (not needed if you go wall)
- 2 Storage Annex
- 1 Elder Library
- 1 Secure Haven
- 2 Fortitude

+2 Dreams of the Sphynx
+1 The Rack
+1 Power Base Montreal
+1 Pentex Subversion

+2 Abbott
+1 revelations (if you think your prey is holding a Sudden Reversal/DI for Dia de los Muertos/Brinksmanship)

+1 Ivory bow
+1 Bowl of Convergence

+2 trochomancy (golden when facing Ashur decks)

+3 Weighted Walking Stick

+ 1 My Enemy`s Enemy
+ 2 Telepathic Misdirection
+ 2 On the Qui Vive
+ 2 Eyes of Argus

Hello,
Slaughterhouses alone are not very good way of milling. They are relatively slow and you also need some way to get that one last card from your preys hand to force him/her to withdraw. Otherwise he/she can just sit with full hand ad infinitum. They probably won't win the game, but neither will you. And should you actually oust your first prey you have to start the process anew with each Methuselah.

If you really want to stick to Slaughterhouses, I second Borrelstein in adding a bunch of Revelations to your deck. Otherwise I suggest you going full wall and equipment based combat. Ditch most of your extra masters, Add 2-3 Constant revolution and equal amount of Smiling Jack. This will make you an enemy of entire table, but it's not such a leap as playing with Slaughterhouses as you already had two predators.

As for passing Brinksmanship, Dia de los Muertos is quite good. For low vote meta, couple of Telepathic Vote Counting combined with cardinal benediction and single Cryptic Rider is good plan B. If you go Cryptic Rider Route, some other vote than getting title might be better. Negotiating KRC to pass 2 to your prey and 2 to some other target should be quite easy.

I hope you can make this work

i cant see synergy fo anarch cards if deck is sabbat ?_? how i can play dia de los muertos and constant revolution ?? Your making me confusion

Anyways... again i made the cut. After advices deck stays like this...:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 23, Max: 28, Avg: 6.33)

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3 Agaitas AUS for NEC 6 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Billy AUS dom for 5 Ventrue Antitribu
1 Blackhorse Tanner AUS DOM FOR 7 Ventrue Antitribu
1 Charice Fontaigne for pot AUS DOM6 Ventrue Antitribu
3 Egothha AUS FOR NEC obf7 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Marlene AUS dem DOM for tha6 Ventrue Antitribu
1 Omaya ANI AUS FOR pro7 Gangrel Antitribu
1 Sheila Mezarin AUS cel for PRE6 Toreador Antitribu

Library: (80 cards)

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Master (22 cards)
1 Día de los Muertos
1 Erciyes Fragments, The
2 Fortitude
6 Slaughterhouse, The
1 Storage Annex
2 Vessel
4 Villein
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Smiling Jack, The Anarch
1 Metro Underground

Action (6 cards)
2 Constant Revolution
4 Revelations

Action Modifier (12 cards)
2 Call of the Hungry Dead
2 Daring the Dawn
4 Freak Drive
4 Trochomancy

Political Action (2 cards)
2 Brinksmanship

Reaction (16 cards)
4 Eyes of Argus
3 My Enemy`s Enemy
4 On the Qui Vive
5 Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (17 cards)
4 Hidden Strength
4 Indomitability
2 Resilience
1 Rolling with the Punches
1 Skin of Steel
2 Superior Mettle
3 Weighted Walking Stick

Equipment (5 cards)
1 Erebus Mask
1 Sacre Cour Cathedral, France
1 Shaal Fragment
1 Ivory Bow
1 Bowl of Convergence

malkavianbarcelona wrote:

i cant see synergy fo anarch cards if deck is sabbat ?_? how i can play dia de los muertos and constant revolution ?? Your making me confusion

Sorry if my advice was not clear. You only need one anarch to play the Constant Revolution and only one sabbat to play Dia de los Muertos. I'd say you can stay mostly Sabbat, and mayby change in 2 anarch convert to crypt, dropping Marlene and Charice now that your not using dominate anymore. If you don't happen to draw your converts, no biggie just use the cardless action to go anarch with one vampire.

When I said equipment based combat, I meant guns, preferably .44/snipers. You will be doing so much blocking that transient combat will run out at some point.

Below you can find somewhat trimmed version. Ventrue antitribu were dropped from crypt and replaced with AUS weenies and Anarch Converts, and one Gisella was returned to the crypt simply because she has title. Combat section was stripped down to guns, concealed weapons and some auspex tricks. Aura reading is so very nice with Agaitas's special. I'm also tempted to remove cathedral and mask, but maybe you need them in your meta.

There is single prayer copy of Under Siege in library to increase block ability. This angle could be build upon by replacing Billy with Cicatriz. He has wrong disciplines but is only a 5 cap, has title and discard special to combo with Agaitas. Or if you feel you need more votes maybe that 5 cap Laibon magaji.

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=1 max=7 avg=4.92)
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3x Agaitas, The Scholar of Antiquities 6 for AUS NEC Harbinger of Skulls:2
2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:ANY
1x Billy 5 dom for AUS !Ventrue:2
2x Egothha 7 obf AUS FOR NEC Harbinger of Skulls:2
1x General Perfidio Díos 5 dem obf AUS !Malkavian:3
1x Gisela Harden, The Winnower 7 aus dem FOR NEC Harbinger of Skulls:2
1x Idalia, Prophet of Guadalajara 4 dem AUS !Malkavian:2
1x Remilliard, Devout Crusader 4 pre AUS !Toreador:2

Library (70 cards)
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Master (15)
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Día de los Muertos
1x Erciyes Fragments, The
1x Metro Underground
4x Slaughterhouse, The
2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
2x Vessel
2x Villein

Action (6)
2x Constant Revolution
3x Revelations
1x Under Siege

Political Action (2)
2x Brinksmanship

Equipment (9)
3x .44 Magnum
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Erebus Mask
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sacre Cour Cathedral, France
2x Sniper Rifle

Retainer (1)
1x Mr. Winthrop

Action Modifier (10)
2x Call of the Hungry Dead
2x Daring the Dawn
3x Freak Drive
1x Telepathic Vote Counting
2x Trochomancy

Reaction (15)
4x Eyes of Argus
3x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
4x Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (12)
3x Aura Reading
3x Concealed Weapon
2x Hidden Strength
2x Indomitability
2x Read Intentions