Archetype Deck1: Anarch Combat+

How about this for an alternate deck?

Crypt (13 vampires)
5 Anarch Convert 1 cap
1 Guillermo Arsuaga 6 cap
1 Honorine Ateba 6 cap
1 Shasa Aub Badur 5 cap
1 Victor Pelletier 5 cap
1 Lindsay Yates 5 cap
1 Elizabeth Conde 5 cap
1 Kenyatta 4 cap
1 Fahd al-Zawba'a 4 cap

Action (22)
13 Undue Influence
3 Dream World
2 Gear Up
2 Mind Numb
1 Atonement
1 Aranthebes, the Immortal

Action Modifier (17)
10 Forced March
4 Power of One
2 Monkey Wrench
1 Daring the Dawn

Allies (1)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)

Combat (12)
10 Diversion
2 Bollix

Equipment (9)
3 Assault Rifle
2 .44 Magnum
1 Heart of Nizchetus
1 Ivory Bow
1 Sport Bike
1 Flak Jacket

Master (14)
2 Blood Doll
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Hackerspace
2 Dabbler
2 Vessel
1 Anarch Free Press, The
1 Anarch Railroad
1 Twilight Camp
1 Powerbase: Los Angeles

Reaction (14)
4 On the Qui vive
4 Protection Racket
3 Guardian Vigil
2 Delaying Tactics
1 Eluding the Arms of Morpheus

Retainer (1)
1 Mr. Winthrop

jblacey wrote:

My original hope was to be able to do both. That said, if we have super basic decks for demos then maybe these should be stepping stone decks into tournaments. I am not worried about them being balanced against each other... because realistically they are very unlikely to ever be at the same table. What I am worried about is players being in a tournament and feeling hopelessly out-matched.

I get that, but these may also be the stepping stone to the 5-player All-In-One VTES product Black Chantry is looking for. If they could be balanced against each other, that is.

Also, I liked the pot-cel-pro-pre Anarch deck more. Something about having Brujah/!Brujah being the bulk of the crypt seems thematically right.

Another alternative.

Note: This deck hasn't been tested or refined yet.

Crypt (12 Vampires)
4 Jack Drake 8 cap
2 Pug Jackson 6 cap
2 Jeremiah Noble 6 cap
1 Shawnda Dorrit 6 cap
1 Gillermo Arsuaga 6 cap
1 Elizabeth Conde 5 cap
1 Laecanus 5 cap

Library (90 Cards)

Master (16, 4 Trifle)
3 Blood Doll
2 Agent of Power
2 Dabbler
1 Al's Army Apparatus
1 Anarch Free Press, The
1 Barrens
1 Club Illusion
1 Guardian Angel
1 Hackerspace
1 Powerbase: Los Angeles
1 Tension in the Ranks
1 Waste Management Operation

Action (10)
4 Make the Misere
3 Field Training
1 Aranthebes, The Immortal
1 Constant Revolution
1 Status Perfectus, The

Combat (34)
8 Thrown Sewer Lid
6 Diversion
6 Thrown Gate
6 Bollix
4 Hell-for-Leather
4 Pysche

Equipment (9)
6 .44 Magnum
1 Ivory Bow
1 Sport Bike
1 Flak Jacket

Retainer (1)
1 Mr. Winthrop

Reaction (20)
4 On the Qui vive
4 Forced Awakening
4 Protection Racket
3 Guardian Vigil
3 Eyes of the Night
2 Eluding the Arms of Morpheus

Kraus wrote:

LivesByProxy wrote:

Bloodartist wrote:

I think this is best left out of our generic beginner-friendly decks.

I don't disagree with you, but I want to ask jblacey: should these be thought of as beginner-friendly? Or easy-to-pilot intermediate-level decks?

This is basically the question. Do you want to make a demo-level experience, balance 5 decks together in a vacuum, or cater them to a tournament environment?

This important decision in deck building is still a bit blurry to me here.

I think there is design room between the demo decks (mono discipline, played with 20 pool) and "tournament level" decks. I assumed the decks in this thread were meant to be these "intermediate" level decks,

I was thinking decks that you could loan if some newcomer comes to the weekly game that is still played with 30 pool and 'real' decks. Something that is somewhat competitive but doesn't have too many moving parts.

Would there be some way to combine the 1st draft (+++) with the latest alternative deck you proposed? (Adding those vamps that have ++?) Would that be too diluted? What about adding Jack Drake to your 1st draft crypt? Him and Salvador Garcia being star-like vamps for your younger Anarchs.

LivesByProxy wrote:

Would there be some way to combine the 1st draft (+++) with the latest alternative deck you proposed? (Adding those vamps that have ++?) Would that be too diluted? What about adding Jack Drake to your 1st draft crypt? Him and Salvador Garcia being star-like vamps for your younger Anarchs.

I might be trying to get too fancy. might be the correct path and do a standard who flung junk deck. It is totally simple and always entertaining.