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13 Oct 2011 06:23 #11903 by Ashur

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alek wrote:
combat decks actually have one of the best in vtes gain pool mechanic. Villein + taste of vitae let's them create big amounts of pool while killing minions

Best? I don´t know what enviroment you play in, but here this way of bloating is not very stable. People either play very strong combat defence or the vamps are out of blood. The few decks that does this tend to cross-table rush just to bloat on a soft target, and then go "Sorry, I had to do this, so I could survive" - usually bad players that don´t understand table balance.

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13 Oct 2011 06:24 #11904 by Ashur

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Enter combat with a vampire controlled by your prey. If the target vampire is in torpor at the end of this action, move the vampire to the ready region and your prey burns 2 pool.

I like this!

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13 Oct 2011 06:45 #11905 by alek

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alek wrote:
combat decks actually have one of the best in vtes gain pool mechanic. Villein + taste of vitae let's them create big amounts of pool while killing minions

Best? I don´t know what enviroment you play in

I play in normal tournament meta game, which means mix of politics, bleed and combat decks.

b.) master-heavy decks to be punished. They are way to strong as it looks now.

Master decks are different problem, but just combat decks have the best means to fight with them. Rush + graverobbing/decapitate/diablerie usually means game over for such a deck

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13 Oct 2011 06:59 #11907 by Ashur

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alek wrote:

Master decks are different problem, but just combat decks have the best means to fight with them. Rush + graverobbing/decapitate/diablerie usually means game over for such a deck
Sadly, it also mean a fxxked up table balance, as the master heavy deck usually still are able to bloodwall. While the master heavy decks does nothing against its prey, the combat heavy deck still can´t oust. You haven´t noticed this?

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13 Oct 2011 07:11 #11909 by alek

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Bloating without minions is really hard. You can't play villein and golconda. Without additional MPA from minions you have only parthenon for additional MPAs.
Additionally, in every combat deck you should have some cards that boost your ousting capabilities. If you prefer playing with 90 combat cards it's bad deckbuilind not a bad game design. If you want to play only combat, please play Rage, not Vtes

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13 Oct 2011 08:57 #11913 by Juggernaut1981

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Here is a graphical version of the card suggested by direwolf.
[img size=400]https://7014330367969587453-a-1802744773732722657-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/juggernaut1981svtesdownloads/home/vtes-card-creations/library-cards/Sending a Message.jpg[/img]

(The text is very similar to the original)