file Bewitching Gaze (or Dread Oration?)

19 Sep 2012 06:03 #37238 by direwolf
This is not meant to be taken seriously... It's an exercise in variations of vote push/defense.

Bewitching Gaze
:modifier: :reaction:
A vampire may not play Bewitching Gaze, Dread Oration, Bewitching Oration or Dread Gaze during the same action. Only usable during a referendum.
1 :blood:
:pre: :reaction: Usable by a tapped vampire. Reduce a younger vampire's votes by 3.
:PRE: :modifier: +5 votes.


Dread Oration
:modifier: :reaction:
A vampire may not play Bewitching Gaze, Dread Oration, Bewitching Oration or Dread Gaze during the same action. Only usable during a referendum.
1 :blood:
:pre: :modifier: This vampire gains 3 votes.
:PRE: :reaction: Usable by a tapped vampire. This vampire gains 5 votes against the referendum.

:tore: :pre: :tem: :aus: Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.

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19 Sep 2012 06:56 - 19 Sep 2012 06:56 #37254 by Kiddo
Honestly, as a DoC player, I don't like it. Want to play a card that is already a reaction and an action modifier? Yeah, there's a Madrigal for you (and no bounce :cheer: ).

Also, having any card that is so flexible (modifier/reaction) and that provides 5 votes is way too strong IMO, even with a cost.
Last edit: 19 Sep 2012 06:56 by Kiddo.

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19 Sep 2012 08:28 #37264 by Boris The Blade

:pre: :reaction: Usable by a tapped vampire. Reduce a younger vampire's votes by 3.

Not worth a blood unless you are an Inner Circle: younger vampires almost always won't have 3 votes.

Dread Oration
:modifier: :reaction:
A vampire may not play Bewitching Gaze, Dread Oration, Bewitching Oration or Dread Gaze during the same action. Only usable during a referendum.
1 :blood:
:pre: :modifier: This vampire gains 3 votes.
:PRE: :reaction: Usable by a tapped vampire. This vampire gains 5 votes against the referendum.

I like. Delaying Tactics is a boring card, the game would be more interesting with more transient votes instead.

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19 Sep 2012 09:31 - 19 Sep 2012 09:32 #37271 by Amenophobis

:pre: :reaction: Usable by a tapped vampire. Reduce a younger vampire's votes by 3.

Not worth a blood unless you are an Inner Circle: younger vampires almost always won't have 3 votes.

It's a reaction card. It is safe to assume that the acting vampire could use transient votes to push his vote count (e.g. for Voter Captivation).
Last edit: 19 Sep 2012 09:32 by Amenophobis.

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19 Sep 2012 09:48 #37275 by wesile
I rather have a card that is usable both as an action modifier or as a reaction that can replace Delaying tactics if needed.

Aggravated Insult

:modifier: :reaction:
:blood: 1

:modifier:
:aus: :pre:
Cancel the votes of one younger vampire and tap him if untapped.
:AUS: :PRE:
Cancel the votes of two vampires and tap one of them if untapped.

:reaction:
:aus: :pre:
Gain 4 votes.
:AUS: :PRE:
Gain 4 votes and cancel the votes of the vampire calling the referendum if any.

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19 Sep 2012 10:32 - 19 Sep 2012 10:35 #37282 by Izaak

Also, having any card that is so flexible (modifier/reaction) and that provides 5 votes is way too strong IMO, even with a cost.


Ye I kinda agree here. This would just replace BO altogether. The reason vote reactions are not played because the opportunity cost is too high and it's probably more reliable to play DT anyway.

What we would need is more cards like Wrong and Crosswise that are not useless when nobody is voting and aren't strictly inferior to Delaying Tactics when used for vote defense.

Also, I don't think we are in need of more vote increasing modifiers for presence, because both Ventrue and Toreador are already quite good enough at getting stuff passed.

Aggravated Insult

:modifier: :reaction:
:blood: 1

:modifier:
:aus: :pre:
Cancel the votes of one younger vampire and tap him if untapped.
:AUS: :PRE:
Cancel the votes of two vampires and tap one of them if untapped.


That is one stupidly broken card. Someone hasn't been reading Under the Skin.
Last edit: 19 Sep 2012 10:35 by Izaak.

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