Submission - Delusions of Grandeur (anti-villein vote moves back pool to vampires)

jhattara wrote:

Ke. wrote:

Nice and elegant — although maybe factor in capacity.

What do you mean by this? Do you think it should be able to target only younger vampires?

What may be hilarious would be to be able to target only older vampires.

Think of it as an underling that point out you don't have what you should have. An Inner circle also seem to be someone more likely to be affected than a random primogen

jhattara wrote:

What do you mean by this? Do you think it should be able to target only younger vampires?

I was thinking along the lines of trying limit the pool damage done, ie. when targeting an 8-cap (4 pool max), 6 cap (3 pool max) — but disregard, I prefer the simplicity of 5 pool damage and less if it's a low cap or mid cap with blood...

Kraus wrote:

jhattara wrote:

How about...

Delusions of Grandeur

Requires a titled Sabbat vampire
Choose a ready vampire. Successful referendum means that the chosen vampire gains up to 5 blood from his or her controller's pool. Any excess blood gained is moved back to pool instead of blood bank.

I'm a fan of this as well. Well worded, makes things simple and easy, and is still usable by a bishop. Great job.

yes it's well worded, but Anson's controller woh just lost 5 pool can just play minion tap or villein again, or even shift his prey, while a standard rush/combat deck who plays his game on low pool will certainly be ousted.

On other words : in most of cases it does not harm the type of deck it's supposed to harm :/

Reyda wrote:

yes it's well worded, but Anson's controller woh just lost 5 pool can just play minion tap or villein again, or even shift his prey, while a standard rush/combat deck who plays his game on low pool will certainly be ousted.

On other words : in most of cases it does not harm the type of deck it's supposed to harm :/

The caveat : he can do that only if the vote don't oust him.

It's kind of "oust your prey at 5 or less pool" (or 6 in the Ankha version), which admitely is useful. And if your prey have, say 2 near-empty inner circle out, then you can play two of them and make him lose 12 pool - pretty mean

Still, writing this post made me understand two important problem in card design with this card :
* first, putting thoses aforementioned multi-IC deck behind 12 pool may not be all that easy, which mean despite the potential of using multiples of this vote to damage them, they may be less impacted.
* and then, a vote against deck that put multiples IC in play ? You may still pass your votes, but they have a built-in defense called "I have 9 permanent votes"