Path of Bones, Harbingers card

Path of Bones
Type: Master
Requires: Harbingers of Skulls
Cost: 1 pool
Unique master.
Put this card in play. Cards that require Necromancy [nec] cost Harbingers of Skulls 2 less blood, except during actions that would put a wraith into play by any means. Any minion may burn this card as a action; if that minion is a vampire, he or she takes 1 unpreventable damage when this card is burned.


It just doesn't seem right that Giovanni have much better necromancy options than the superiour Harbingers, equally from what I can recall, wraith manipulaiton is a speciality of the Giovanni, whilst corpse manipulation the harbingers.

Also, I realise that this is the same name as the Giovanni path card. That's an intended idea, let them contest!

Eius wrote:

It just doesn't seem right that Giovanni have much better necromancy options than the superiour Harbingers

Giovanni are in-lore the better necromant of the two. Harbinger have Mortis in addition to necromancy, which do give them additional abilities.

The card itself do more than the Giovanni one on exactly 4 cards, one of them may cause trouble (Shambling horde for 1 blood piece).

The card on which this path don't work are rather weak, except maybe the masker (at 0 blood, it's pretty decent).

Overall, errating the orginal path to work for Harbinger seem better than this card, even if a bit boring.

Eius wrote:

Also, I realise that this is the same name as the Giovanni path card. That's an intended idea, let them contest!

Give it another name, and add text to explain both contest. It will be ten time clearer for players.

It doesnt help the harbingers enough. They need more than cheap costs on a bad discipline. Necro cards that say "cannot be played by a giovanni" are a better way to show necro mastery. Or harbingers clan cards (wraiths, or spectres since they survived in the shadowlands, or cards that represent aid from such things. Or a risen)

Hmmm

Good points. I prehaps prefer errata on the original path of bones to include Harbingers and Nagaraja, then more Harbingers allies / retainers.

Harbingers really do need some help. Any news of harbingers cards in the new set?

Hey, just a tip: wraith sourcebooks and books with mortis or the 20th anniversary vtm are good reference, as are the old books with harbingers/black hand references , as is (to a point) clanbook cappadocian from dark ages.

Look forward to your ideas. All my HoS ideas dont get posted. Too powerful or too sucky.

I toy with the idea of an anti-dominate card for harbinger.

The idea is, Harbinger really are pissed against Giovanni, and card that work well against giovanni while being actually useable would be pretty cool. An anti-necromancy card seem too narrow, so anti-dominate. Of course, Harvinger have no special power against dominate, but they are described as being strong-willed and necromancy do have somes lead as being used against domination.