Brainstorming a New Sabbat Political Action

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Army of Shovelheads


Setting Siege
Political Action
+1 stealth.
Requires an untitled Sabbat vampire capacity 7 or more.
Choose and tap X vampires. Deal X damage to a vampire controlled by your prey or predator. If the chosen vampire goes to torpor, this vampire gains the torpored minion's title. If the torpor minion was a Justicar this minion becomes a Priscus. If the torpor minion was an Inner Circle this minion becomes a Cardinal.

Justicar is a lot better than priscus... If you have other priscus on the table the vote is gone, not the same thing with justicar.



Forced Recruitment

Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any archbishop, priscus or cardinal at +1 stealth.
If this referendum is successful move the next card from your crypt to uncontrolled region and put a blood from the blood bank in every minion on the uncontrolled region.



Death before dishonor

Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any cardinal at +1 stealth.
If this referendum is successful put this card in play. If a sabbat vampire should go to torpor in combat he can choose to be burned instead to give x aggravated damage to the other minion, were x is half the capacity of the vampire round up. Damage not preventable.

Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.


Legal seizure

Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any sabbat vampire at +1 stealth.
If this referendum is successful choose any equipments in play and you can equip your minions with them paying half the original cost (round down).


Fortified blood

Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any archbishop, priscus or cardinal at +1 stealth.

If this referendum is successful put this card in play. During your minion phase you can untap any sabbat vampire once, paying 1 pool each time you do so.
Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.


Master Breeder
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any sabbat vampire with a capacity above 7 at +1 stealth action.
If this referendum is successful put this card in this vampire. The vampire with this card can take an +1 Stealth action to move 3 blood from the blood bank to an uncontrolled minion.



The Scavenger

Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any archbishop, priscus or cardinal at +1 stealth.
If this referendum is successful choose a sabbat vampire you control and put this card on him. The vampire with this card can tap during your master phase to move 2 cards from the ash heap to your library. Shuffle afterwards.


Punch the table
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Require a sabbat vampire

This acting vampire gains x votes or x bleed where x is his strength. No more modifiers to increase the bleed can be played after this one.


Confiscation was already discussed on the other thread and for me, the version of steal 2 give 2 is the more balanced.

wesile wrote:

Justicar is a lot better than priscus... If you have other priscus on the table the vote is gone, not the same thing with justicar.

That is a common misconception.

1 Priscus: 3 votes. 1 Justicar: 3 votes.
2 opposing Priscii: 0 votes. 2 opposing Justicars: 3 votes for 3 votes against, total: 0 votes.
3 Priscii, 2 for, 1 against: 3 votes for. 3 Justicars, 2 for, 1 against: 6 votes votes for, 3 votes against, total: 3 votes for.

The Priscii block must pass by 2 or more ballots to see a difference with an individual 3 votes. That is both unlikely and not critical: if another player is voting with you then your vote is probably already passing anyway.

jhattara wrote:

Nitpick: not anymore. Regent was changed for third edition and all older cardinal cards were errated to include regent in requirements.

The regent still counts as a cardinal according to the rulebook

Non-existant user wrote:

The regent counts as cardinal by cards and other effects, but has an additional vote as well.

Setting Siege
Political Action
+1 stealth.
Requires an untitled Sabbat vampire capacity 7 or more.
Choose and tap X vampires. Deal X damage to a vampire controlled by your prey or predator. If the chosen vampire goes to torpor, this vampire gains the torpored minion's title. If the torpor minion was a Justicar this minion becomes a Priscus. If the torpor minion was an Inner Circle this minion becomes a Cardinal.

This should get around the issue without causing too many other issues about sects and the like.

Setting Siege
Political Action
+1 stealth.
Requires a Sabbat vampire capacity 7 or more.
Choose and tap X Sabbat vampires you control. Deal X damage to a vampire controlled by your prey or predator. If the chosen vampire goes to torpor they lose their title and this vampire gains additional votes equal to the votes of the title lost by the vampire in torpor; the acting vampire is now titled.

Hum... there is a sabbat expansion on the queue... wonder what political actions are included if any...