Card Idea: tremere bond

Molloy wrote:

direwolf wrote:

While I agree mid and low caps can make great use of the card, but it is not better suited for them. It encourages a varied crypt. It also dictates the order in which you bring out your vampires if you want to make the most out of it.

It would work just as well in a crypt made up of 10-9-8-7 capacity Tremere.

It's open to abuse by a crypt of (for example) all 3-caps and a library with a good supply of Master: Discipline cards.

Yep, you could use group 3 with group 2 or 4 tremere and tremere antitribue of capacity 3 or less.

You could also say the same about having a crypt of 3 cap with basic dominate and a bunch of dominate master cards.

I fail to see how that is any less abusive.

It's open to abuse by a crypt of (for example) all 3-caps and a library with a good supply of Master: Discipline cards.

You can already do this with dominate and 3-caps, which is more efficient as you can just play 20 Governs and bleed with the extra's. Dominate Crypt machine is probably one of the most hated decks, but it's not like it's posting tournament results because it's a 1-VP deck.

With the card being unique I don't think it's even remotely too powerful and I think the idea has merit.

Ohlmann wrote:

That kind of mechanism is strong ; I can understand concern of giving another version to a clan that already have strong asset in this area, especially since it may slow down the game.

I'd probably be less wary of giving it to a clan that's a bit weaker. Someone a bit more obscure.

Ohlmann wrote:

Also, it's a good card for a camarilla clan, and camarilla clans are pretty advantaged already with their inner Circle, and the prince-related cards.

I'm not sure the Tremere get all that much out of their Princes or Justicars. Some of them are decent, but none of them strike me as being as sexy as, say, Anson, Rachel Brandywine, any of the Group 1/2 Brujah Princes, Anneke, Tara etc.