Card Idea: tremere bond

direwolf wrote:

And for your second point: It's less pool generated than Govern the Unaligned. The action costs a pool, and it's unique so the only way to use it again is to influence out the vampire.

But it *is* reusable, which is alway a strong point. Once you have played this, no amount of bad luck in the draw will prevent you from creating some pool and/or bringing new body to the table

That kind of mechanism is strong ; I can understand concern of giving another version to a clan that already have strong asset in this area, especially since it may slow down the game.

Also, it's a good card for a camarilla clan, and camarilla clans are pretty advantaged already with their inner Circle, and the prince-related cards.

I have just one question about this card, exactly why would anyone play it with a clan that has access to Govern the Unaligned also?

Klaital wrote:

I have just one question about this card, exactly why would anyone play it with a clan that has access to Govern the Unaligned also?

1) There is a benefit to slave status.
2) A Tremere lacking superior dominate can use it.

It's not intended to replace govern. It's a card you might put one or two of in a deck. It fits the lore of the game.

2) A Tremere lacking superior dominate can use it.

Then the card idea is misrepresented. It was designed to represent rigid structure of the clan, but this way midcap to lowcap vampires would use it the most, not these big guys supposedly interested in keeping the things they are.

kombainas wrote:

2) A Tremere lacking superior dominate can use it.

Then the card idea is misrepresented. It was designed to represent rigid structure of the clan, but this way midcap to lowcap vampires would use it the most, not these big guys supposedly interested in keeping the things they are.

While I agree mid and low caps can make great use of the card, but it is not better suited for them. It encourages a varied crypt. It also dictates the order in which you bring out your vampires if you want to make the most out of it.

It would work just as well in a crypt made up of 10-9-8-7 capacity Tremere.

direwolf wrote:

While I agree mid and low caps can make great use of the card, but it is not better suited for them. It encourages a varied crypt. It also dictates the order in which you bring out your vampires if you want to make the most out of it.

It would work just as well in a crypt made up of 10-9-8-7 capacity Tremere.

It's open to abuse by a crypt of (for example) all 3-caps and a library with a good supply of Master: Discipline cards.