Lend the Blood Brothers a hand

ReverendRevolver wrote:

3 circle, hes g3. Mexico city, and both g3 (torrance and chicago?)

Like I said, only one circle can't play him, which is the same thing as saying 3 circle can play him, since there is 4 circles.

The main bugs I have with Angelo are:

-You can't play hive mind to bring him into play
-You can't play thicker than blood to bring him into play
-You can't play thicker than blood to bring someone else out if you only have him in play
-Oppugnant night doesn't apply to him if played by a different blood brother
-he doesn't benefit from three's a crowd

All in all, this makes him very awkward to include in a BB deck. A bad choice to influence early in the game and difficult to bring out later in the game.

Eius wrote:

Quick clarification... abbots give +1 intercept "against actions directed at his or her controller."

An action against the path is against the card not the methuselah so presumably the +1 intercept doesn't apply?

Actions directed at something you control are also directed at you.

[LSJ 20061222]

LSJ wrote:

>> Can I use the intercept from Abbot to try to block a minion who's
>> attempting an action against a location I control? I guess not but I
>> just want to be sure.
>>
>> Abbot
>> +1 stealth action. Requires a Sabbat vampire.
>> Put this card on this acting Sabbat vampire and untap him or her. This
>> Sabbat vampire gets +1 intercept against actions directed at his or
>> her controller. A vampire may have only one Abbot.
>
> An action directed at a card or cards you control is also directed at
> you. The Abbot intercept applies.

Correct.

Eius wrote:

The main bugs I have with Angelo are:

-You can't play hive mind to bring him into play
-You can't play thicker than blood to bring him into play
-You can't play thicker than blood to bring someone else out if you only have him in play
-Oppugnant night doesn't apply to him if played by a different blood brother
-he doesn't benefit from three's a crowd

Oh my god, he is not actually your response to everything. And I thought that having one additional body with sup' sanguinis, who can in addition improve every card dependant on the number of BB something useful.

Seriously, it's like whining that Alexandra cannot play 2nd tradition. Yes, it's a drawback. No, it don't particulary have to be fixed. He is plenty useful as he is now.

(also, thicker than blood don't hit me as a particulary valuable card for blood brother. You need blood on them)

Eius wrote:

All in all, this makes him very awkward to include in a BB deck. A bad choice to influence early in the game and difficult to bring out later in the game.

In a *beatdown* BB deck of a particular type. I never see much trouble with him. Nor do the Hermana deck that relied on him and won a tournament in spain one or two year ago.

I personally think that BB are quite fine already, Chicago Circle especially is really strong, and they don't really even want Angelo, its mostly POT/SAN deck, with just a splash of fortitude for prevent, so why would you want to pay 7 pool for guy who doesn't even have superior potence.

Eius wrote:

The main bugs I have with Angelo are:....


....All in all, this makes him very awkward to include in a BB deck. A bad choice to influence early in the game and difficult to bring out later in the game.

There has been discussion of Angelo being inefficient or difficult to use in the past. It would be nice if he counted as a blood brother of any circle, but he doesn't. I got over it and I just don't use him. Someday I might think of something fun where he fits well.