Submission: Greater Purpose
16 Mar 2018 08:54 #85811
by Blooded Sand
Yup, read the cards and see the rulings. May has a ruled meaning, can does not
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Really? Could you give the reference of those guidelines?
Nitpick: According to current card wording guidelines this should be "may" not "can"During their master phase, this vampire's controller can move 2 blood from this vampire to their pool.
Yup, read the cards and see the rulings. May has a ruled meaning, can does not








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16 Mar 2018 10:26 #85812
by Ankha
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Once again, I'm interested in the references.
Really? Could you give the reference of those guidelines?
Nitpick: According to current card wording guidelines this should be "may" not "can"During their master phase, this vampire's controller can move 2 blood from this vampire to their pool.
Yup, read the cards and see the rulings. May has a ruled meaning, can does not
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16 Mar 2018 15:53 #85813
by agzocgud
Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.
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I love this card. It could be return of more mid-cap decks. It would replace the need to have govern the unaligned in every midcap deck. I would consider a cap of 3 per player or something, just to avoid abuse from breed-decks.
Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.
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19 Mar 2018 00:01 #85851
by jblacey
Replied by jblacey on topic Submission: Greater Purpose
Greater Purpose + any hunt deck or weenie Sabbat deck with Hungry Coyote.
If this card sees print, it will probably just be a complete replacement for those decks that still run blood doll. Seems like a power creep card to me.
If this card sees print, it will probably just be a complete replacement for those decks that still run blood doll. Seems like a power creep card to me.
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19 Mar 2018 05:59 #85852
by LivesByProxy
I thought Blooded Sand was correct, but couldn't remember where I had seen the ruling... then I thought he was maybe misremembering your website ... but on that page you link to this ruling page here on VEKN, which says:
I personally think that 'may' would be better than 'can'. May implies voluntary action. Compare to 'must' which implies coercive action.
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean
until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex
, Obfuscate
, or Potence
for the current action.
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Once again, I'm interested in the references.
Really? Could you give the reference of those guidelines?
Nitpick: According to current card wording guidelines this should be "may" not "can"During their master phase, this vampire's controller can move 2 blood from this vampire to their pool.
Yup, read the cards and see the rulings. May has a ruled meaning, can does not
I thought Blooded Sand was correct, but couldn't remember where I had seen the ruling... then I thought he was maybe misremembering your website ... but on that page you link to this ruling page here on VEKN, which says:
R0014 : May/Can
All 'may' are replaced by 'can'. ('May' shows permission, 'can' possibility & we need to use only one of them: unjustified alternances between 'may' and 'can' must be avoided).
Comment: Hugh: This is horsepoo. We should use 'may' it is way cooler
I personally think that 'may' would be better than 'can'. May implies voluntary action. Compare to 'must' which implies coercive action.










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19 Mar 2018 08:43 #85853
by Ankha
1/ Blood Dolls are scarce nowadays because of Vessel. Does a deck such as the one you describe with Blood Doll still exist?
2/ Blood Doll allows you to put back blood on the vampire, which is quite important.
Replied by Ankha on topic Submission: Greater Purpose
That could be a concern indeed. ButGreater Purpose + any hunt deck or weenie Sabbat deck with Hungry Coyote.
If this card sees print, it will probably just be a complete replacement for those decks that still run blood doll. Seems like a power creep card to me.
1/ Blood Dolls are scarce nowadays because of Vessel. Does a deck such as the one you describe with Blood Doll still exist?
2/ Blood Doll allows you to put back blood on the vampire, which is quite important.
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