thoughts on the usage of keywords in Vtes.

Reyda wrote:

the change is minor and irrelevant.
what next, "choose a methuselah and bleed" for kindred spirits ? :/

while i agree with you, I do see what Juggernaut is getting at, re: templating. He is, however really going far beyond the scope of what I was hoping to discuss, though this discussion is not without merit. I really just want keywords and common modifiers bold on crypt cards.

But while we're on the subject, I'd like to see "Cold Iron Vulnerability" go away entirely. It's a very cool, flavorful rule, but appallingly limited in its scope. if more had been done with the vulnerability rule, then it might be a different story, but as it stands you could give Kyasid vampires the 'changeling' keyword, or give some other keyword to changelings and kyasids and just have poker and that other thing do aggravated damage to one or the other; i trust y'all see what i'm getting at.

In general, I would like to see MOAR OF keywords like Black Hand, which does nothing in and of itself that i'm aware of, but less rules directly associated with a particular keyword, like Red List.

Sure, I think Cold Iron Vulnerability is a fairly redundant negative (and hopefully it will just vanish from Kiasyd in the future, despite its clear reference in Canon).

Regarding Red List:
It seems to be a reasonable idea, but the problem has been the fact that it has produced no broad Tier 1 strategies. There are some impressive Decks (like the G2 Tor Trophy Breeder) but in general it is a rule clutter.

On the flipside, I do think like "Blood Cursed" was actually well structured. It is an abbreviation for "This vampire cannot attempt diablerie of any kind".

I doubt that 'bolding' standard modifiers is of massive advantage, but I do see a value in moving it behind Sect & Title.

Sect and sect related keywords +x bleed/stealth/intercept/strength.
Fancy-pants cardtext

Example:
Current Cock Robin
Cock Robin
Clan: Nosferatu (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI OBF POT aus for
Camarilla Nosferatu Justicar. Once per turn, when Cock Robin successfully performs an action that requires Animalism, he untaps at the end of the action. +1 strength.

Modified Cock Robin
Cock Robin
Clan: Nosferatu (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI OBF POT aus for
Camarilla Nosferatu Justicar. +1 strength. Once per turn, when Cock Robin successfully performs an action that requires Animalism, he untaps at the end of the action.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Cock Robin
Clan: Nosferatu (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI OBF POT aus for
Camarilla Nosferatu Justicar. +1 strength. Once per turn, when Cock Robin successfully performs an action that requires Animalism, he untaps at the end of the action.

Or even better:

Cock Robin
Clan: Nosferatu (group 3)
Capacity: 10
Disciplines: ANI OBF POT aus for
Camarilla Nosferatu Justicar. +1 strength.
Once per turn, when Cock Robin successfully performs an action that requires Animalism, he untaps at the end of the action.

Boris hit the nail on the head, but with some text intense vamps unfortunately there isnät room for this.

But that certainly is no reason not to use this format as it'll work in vast majority of vampires.

With the few more text heavy vamps just use the one Juggernaut suggested.

Care to elaborate?

If the text is too long, the solution is shorten it, not to cram as many characters in the card as possible.

"Once per turn Cock Robin untaps after performing a successful action." has exactly the same meaning for almost half the words.

Sidenote: Cock Robin's special is not optional? That's weird.