file Why some new vampires have better design and some worse?

11 Jun 2024 15:09 #111664 by Palamedes

Why force someone to use non-camarilla vampire on a deck with a justicar is better? the bonus against non-camarilla vampires look a incentive to play with judgment: camarilla segregation,


You don't have to, she's still Justicar without non-Camarilla. But now, you know if you're going to use the ability or not, and can create your own game. It's not random! If it's random then you won't even count on it.

I tried to go as little as possible from the original text, but to be more usable. She could play politics with the Nosferatu Barons and Princes from g6/7 (which is not overpowered because they do not have modifiers to manipulate votes). With Gangrels or Tzimisce Barons. Well, maybe something with Ravnos too since they would share 3 disciplines. And provide them some Camarilla Justicar goodies like Absolution of the Diabolist, Anathema, Parity Shift...

with her current set of disciplines enkil cog and homunculus seens fit, she can reforce the nosferatu, to me she looks ok, not overpowered, but playable


She can play Enkil and Homunculus (and other useful pro cards) with basic pro, no need for PRO.

On the other hand, without for she is very vulnerable in combat (1 agg = bye,bye), and not worth the investment of 10 pool if she can't freak drive.

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11 Jun 2024 16:48 #111666 by DavidR


You don't have to, she's still Justicar without non-Camarilla. But now, you know if you're going to use the ability or not, and can create your own game. It's not random! If it's random then you won't even count on it.

I tried to go as little as possible from the original text, but to be more usable. She could play politics with the Nosferatu Barons and Princes from g6/7 (which is not overpowered because they do not have modifiers to manipulate votes). With Gangrels or Tzimisce Barons. Well, maybe something with Ravnos too since they would share 3 disciplines. And provide them some Camarilla Justicar goodies like Absolution of the Diabolist, Anathema, Parity Shift...


Well, a political deck can use some vote modifiers (animal magnetism and old friends come to mind, not powerful like presence modifiers but you will have obsfuscate at your side, this please me more

with her current set of disciplines enkil cog and homunculus seens fit, she can reforce the nosferatu, to me she looks ok, not overpowered, but playable


She can play Enkil and Homunculus (and other useful pro cards) with basic pro, no need for PRO.

On the other hand, without for she is very vulnerable in combat (1 agg = bye,bye), and not worth the investment of 10 pool if she can't freak drive.[/quote]

yeah, dont look good, she, like most nosferatu can´t prevent damage well

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11 Jun 2024 17:19 - 12 Jun 2024 12:03 #111667 by Palamedes
Well, let's go back to the beginning - Lucinde can do all of the above and more, and may find a better crypt environment, so what is Molly for? Why did the design team make her this way?

Yet again, my question is why the difference in power between Molly and Lucinde is so big?
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13 Jun 2024 09:07 #111682 by Lech
There were always better and worse vampires. It's not like we didn't had Lucretia vs Anneke in jyhad. You just have to deal with it.

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14 Jun 2024 22:35 #111700 by Sambomb

yeah, dont look good, she, like most nosferatu can´t prevent damage well


Adaptability :combat:
Protean

:pro: This vampire treats all aggravated damage from the opposing minion's strike as normal damage.
:PRO: Prevent all aggravated damage from the opposing minion's strike.

:pro: Adaptability + :PRO: Flesh of marble = is enough to stop almost anything against her

But yeah, she deserves a superior AUS to be considered good enough

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15 Jun 2024 06:31 #111704 by Poci
I've never seen Adaptability played though....

AUS or maybe 2 inferiors with 1 of them being dominate would have been fine.

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