New vampire: Lord Leopold Valemar, Lasombra Priscus



AotA is great, more efficient than even



Entombment is the most efficient strike to send a vamp to torpor. Prevent doesn't avoid it, it kills imbued, it's cheaper than Coma, and often follows AotA.


In fluff,

But right now,

I'm not saying that

Also,


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So what does a metaphorical










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Lech wrote: I even mentioned black meta, point is both are pointless and bad.
In a vacuum, I generally agree. For a vampire who has a built-in superior Theft of Vitae? Both start looking a lot better.
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Klaital wrote: Mewcat kind of comes out as someone who only plays stuff like weenie dem, since he is basically bashing everything, and thinks it's impossible to win with anything except the (subjective) 'best' thing.
I'm going to go ahead and tell you just how wrong you are. Mewcat plays more off-the-wall vampires and strategies than anyone I've seen, and he plays constantly on Lackey. I haven't seen him play a straight-forward stealth bleed deck *EVER*, and I've been playing the game with him since 2002.
So, he plays more games than most people and tries to use stuff that doesn't work on purpose to see how to make it work. Meanwhile, people who play a tournament game every few months want to come here and talk about how good Chimerstry is? Or Obtenebration? Bunch of armchair quarterbacks who are more interested in fluff than understanding how the game actually works.
I get that a community is a combination of try-hards and casuals, but holy shit if this forum isn't frustrating.
Obtenebration is objectively bad. It costs too much and the comparable effects in other disciplines is better. It's paired with dominate which is why people win with it.
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DJHedgehog wrote:
Klaital wrote: Mewcat kind of comes out as someone who only plays stuff like weenie dem, since he is basically bashing everything, and thinks it's impossible to win with anything except the (subjective) 'best' thing.
I'm going to go ahead and tell you just how wrong you are. Mewcat plays more off-the-wall vampires and strategies than anyone I've seen, and he plays constantly on Lackey. I haven't seen him play a straight-forward stealth bleed deck *EVER*, and I've been playing the game with him since 2002.
So, he plays more games than most people and tries to use stuff that doesn't work on purpose to see how to make it work. Meanwhile, people who play a tournament game every few months want to come here and talk about how good Chimerstry is? Or Obtenebration? Bunch of armchair quarterbacks who are more interested in fluff than understanding how the game actually works.
I get that a community is a combination of try-hards and casuals, but holy shit if this forum isn't frustrating.
Obtenebration is objectively bad. It costs too much and the comparable effects in other disciplines is better. It's paired with dominate which is why people win with it.
I have played stealth bleed a few times over the years but really what is there to remember? I bled for more than one ... At stealth.
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