Timeouts in Finals: Do they happen too often?

I don't see the evidence still, really. What I see is your opinion, stated as fact and conclusions that have no basis.

By your logic KRC also slows down the game to a snail's pace because there needs a vote to be done and sometimes splits needs to be negotiated. Of course, decent players vote fast and negotiate splits in under 30 seconds so it's usually not an issue. Just as resolving a third Ashur Tablets is never a problem when someone that's not mentally handicapped does it.

Poor players taking forever to decide how to offer Kine splits is not a problem with card, but with the players. Just as people taking ages to resolve something as trivial as a third Ashur Tablets. Again that is a problem with the players and not with the card.

Judges should be stepping in and make people move. Be it Ashur Tablets, DI's, Parity Shifts or even wakes for all I care. The issue at hand is that they are (mostly) not doing that and therefore the game is being slowed down to the point of being unenjoyable.

When I have zero votes, I have no interaction with a kine. When I'm one of the targets of the kine, I have no interaction. There is absolutely no difference here.

In fact, one could argue that BECAUSE there is no interaction, Ashur Tablets should resolve fast because nobody can do a fuck about it once the third one hits the table. Ya know, like resolving a Villein isn't very hard either.

If some nitwit is taking forever to complete their Ashur cycle they should be told to speed things the hell up because they're stalling. If judges (or other players) don't have the balls to tell them then either it's not a problem, or they need to man the fuck up and start being actual judges.

Izaak wrote:

When I have zero votes, I have no interaction with a kine. When I'm one of the targets of the kine, I have no interaction. There is absolutely no difference here.

not true.
you can ask for the remaining damage point not being put on you, because you can provide compensation (blood from owain, let the pb montreal go, deal a rush etc... )

Well, if you want to nitpick, extremely few action can't be negociated.

If my prey hesitate between defense (redirection, rush, combat), or offense (stealth, bleed), there is something that can be negociated. If my prey want to villein for a lot, I can try to convince him that keeping blood on vampire for ousting my grandprey is better than turtling.

Izaak believe all thoses decisions can be done quickly enough in the current card pool, while nc-italy think some card take too much time to be resolved by design.

The only thing I will say on the topic is, the less serious and concentrated people will be, the more likely they are to take forever to divide KRC or use Ashur. And there is people that use tournament as social gathering and consequently are less than perfectly concentrated, leading to slow play. Aggressively handing out warning for that mean tournament will be less friendly for them and more for competitive player.