file Re: Descent into Darkness

12 Jan 2012 17:05 - 12 Jan 2012 17:05 #20724 by Shadowhunter
It is however a clever method to reliably play Legendary Vampire :)
Last edit: 12 Jan 2012 17:05 by Shadowhunter.

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13 Jan 2012 02:06 #20789 by CryWolf
Replied by CryWolf on topic Re: Descent into Darkness

It is however a clever method to reliably play Legendary Vampire :)


Interesting. I haven't thought of this (not that I play :OBT: ).

Master phase: Villein/MT a bigcap to 1
Minion phase: Descent into Darkness at :OBT:

A few turns later, vampire comes back at full (or almost full) blood, gets Legendary Vampire then bleedzooka ensues.

:evil:

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13 Jan 2012 16:52 #20846 by drstrange26
Static Virtue

Master

Master. Requires a ready Laibon.
Choose a Laibon you control. If this Laibon was moved to your ready region during your last influence phase, then for every two capacity above 4 this Laibon has, you may move one Aye and one Orun from your hand or library to this Laibon. Otherwise, you may move one Aye or one Orun from your hand or library to this Laibon. Shuffle afterward



Iniko, The Black Lion


Guruhi

Capacity: 9

Group: 4

Laibon: +1 stealth.

Artist(s): Matt Mitchell

Set(s): LoB:U



Brutal Influence

Action

Potence


(D) Bleed at +1 bleed. When the action is announced, this vampire may tap X Orun on him or her to get an additional +X bleed.
+1 stealth action. Tap X Orun on this vampire to move X blood from the bank to a younger Laibon in your uncontrolled region


Do you guys think this is a good combo with Descent into Darkness?

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13 Jan 2012 17:16 - 13 Jan 2012 17:18 #20849 by jamesatzephyr

Do you guys think this is a good combo with Descent into Darkness?


You only get two Orun out of it (and also two Aye), and you could have played one of those Orun instead of the Static Virtue. And note that you must get the Aye too - they're not optional.

If you're only using the Orun, and only using them for the bleed, it's not generally the strongest move in the world. Bleed now and bleed next turn will often be more useful than bleed for two more next turn if you're playing quite a few Orun and Brutal Influence anyway, with bleed support.

It's not unplayable, by any means, but it's not all that powerful.


It's also worth remembering that one Orun burns when you successfully bleed for more than two.
Last edit: 13 Jan 2012 17:18 by jamesatzephyr.
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14 Jan 2012 19:31 - 15 Jan 2012 01:21 #20862 by Azel
Replied by Azel on topic Re: Descent into Darkness
It's not powerful to use Brutal Influence at basic strictly. But that's not the combo.

The combo is resetting the state so that Static Virtue has a second chance at the target.

So yeah, it's fine. Just figure out what you need that much Aye/Orun for and plan out OBT minions (or even better, Obtenebration masters) as an alternate to pull off Static Virtue.

In your example, you could run Iniko as so. Drop any Discipline Master on him (10 cap), wait until you get your Static Virtue, Descent, ascend, Static Virtue up 3 Aye-3Orun. Now he's a minion with +1 vote and a perma"wake" in reserve. Then go have fun.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, this is pretty sweet with Brutal Influence at Superior, considering you can Static Virtue more than once. It'd be a fast way to gain 6-6 or 9-9 Aye-Orun. Brutal Influencing only starts to be more interesting than Govern the Unaligned once its beyond 3 Orun. So getting to influence down 6 or 9 relatively quickly is sorta frightening. But it's also comboriffic, too. Still a frightening bloat engine if it goes off, but takes around 18-24 card slots for setup.
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15 Jan 2012 03:44 #20882 by Haze
Replied by Haze on topic Re: Descent into Darkness
flaw: you'll need 8 more discipline cards to be able to hold 9 aye & 9 orun

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