Knowledge of cards

Xaddam wrote:

If all card texts is "rightful knowledge" a good way to ensure this would be to make judges obliged to answer queries concerning a card's exact card text.

I truly do not understand where these questions are coming from.

Did some judge ever NOT tell you -- or anyone you have ever heard of anywhere ever -- the current card text when you or someone else asked for it?

If so, why didn't you immediately report that person to the VEKN at the time?

If not, why do you believe rules ensuring judges' obligatory behavior need to be implemented?

Indeed, what Henrik said. I would like to know if knowledge of cards is prohibited in any way (via disallowing out-of-game sources, aka smartphones). If it is not prohibited is it facilitated (by the judge)?

KevinM wrote:

I truly do not understand where these questions are coming from.

Did some judge ever NOT tell you -- or anyone you have ever heard of anywhere ever -- the current card text when you or someone else asked for it?

If so, why didn't you immediately report that person to the VEKN at the time?

Off-topic, irrelevant, conjecture and somewhat combative. PM people in the future for questions like these.

KevinM wrote:

If not, why do you believe rules ensuring judges' obligatory behavior need to be implemented?

They already exist, that's what the judge's guidelines are. It's better to have standard procedure on paper so that I can expect to be treated fairly when I'm at a non-local tournament.

Xaddam wrote:

Indeed, what Henrik said. I would like to know if knowledge of cards is prohibited in any way (via disallowing out-of-game sources, aka smartphones). If it is not prohibited is it facilitated (by the judge)?

KevinM wrote:

I truly do not understand where these questions are coming from.

Did some judge ever NOT tell you -- or anyone you have ever heard of anywhere ever -- the current card text when you or someone else asked for it?

If so, why didn't you immediately report that person to the VEKN at the time?

Off-topic, irrelevant, conjecture and somewhat combative. PM people in the future for questions like these.

Completely on-topic, relevant, non-combative, and yes, conjecture, because, as I stated, I have no idea where these questions of his are coming from, so I need to ask more questions to be able to answer properly.

I'm sorry that you were confused by my method of obtaining more information.

And, again: Please do not tell me how to use this forum.

I'm quite unsure. I wouldn't like it if people got help from outside. But I'd appreciate if someone looks up card texts and/or rulings. I think there aren't many people who like to cheat with electronic devices. And even if there isn't much they can get out of it. I mean okay, they could look up a deck in the TWDA. But nothing guarantees that the deck at the table is the deck from the net. Does that really help that much to have to prohibit reasonably helping devices?

(OT: Why does every discussion at this forum have to heat up that much?)

KevinM wrote:

non-combative,

You don't get to choose how you're interpreted. You might be fine with your tone, but you can't change the fact that I find it hostile.

KevinM wrote:

Completely on-topic, relevant [...] and yes, conjecture, because, as I stated, I have no idea where these questions of his are coming from, so I need to ask more questions to be able to answer properly.

I'm sorry that you were confused by my method of obtaining more information.

I want the same answer to my question as anyone else asking the exact same question. Even if they have a different intent, background or desire than me motivating that same question. So, if you find an answer to the original question that you could not find without me telling you of my personal intentions and desires that answer would not be what I asked for. This is why your question is off-topic.

The rules forum should for 99% part be logic, evidence and gamemaker's intent. Desires and anecdotes should not be part of rule-making. If you wish to discuss possible ways to cheat I would point you to the general forum, or at least create a new thread.