Thoughts Betrayed and Hunger of Marduk

inm8 wrote:

Ankha can you please provide an official clarification/stand on the below, thanks.

1) Hunger of Marduk is a pre-range card played for the effect that provides the vampire with a temporary ability in the current round that enables it to "strike, ranged: steal 1/2 blood" as an inherent ability just like the ability to make a hand strike....thus it is not a strike card. Correct?

Strike cards are combat cards that use the "Strike: X", "Cost to strike: X" pattern (not "This vampire can strike: X"), and that are played in the Choose strike step, or Determine Range step if they provide an optional maneuver.

For instance, Majesty ("Strike: combat ends") and Flames of the Netherworld ("Burn 1 blood to strike: 1R aggravated damage.") are strike cards.
Aid from Bats is also a strike cards ("Strike: 1R damage, with 1 optional maneuver").

.44 Magnum or Hunger of Marduk are not strike cards.

inm8 wrote:

2) Strike cards are the cards that provide a strike effect and are worded "Strike: ....". Correct?

Correct.

inm8 wrote:

3) Which cards does "cannot play any strike cards" actually cover? Is it:
a) only strike cards (as per the above mentioned definition) played for/at the discipline level that provides the strike effect. Meaning that cards like Charismatic Aura can be played at inferior and cards like Diversion can be played at and/or

Sure. Those cards do not provide a strike when used with those Disciplines.

inm8 wrote:

b) any card having the ability to provide a strike effect as a strike card (as per the above mentioned definition) regardless of what effect it is played for. Meaning that cards like Charismatic Aura  and Diversion cannot be played at all.

No.

inm8 wrote:

4) Would an alternative wording of the card text of Thoughts Betrayed be clearer ex. "Opposing minion cannot play cards for strike effects during this combat" ?

It does not seem clearer to me.

inm8 wrote:

Further expanding on the questions of the definition of which cards are covered....

5) The card text "discard a card requiring Auspex" is covered by cards that have at least one effect that requires at least Auspex  and is not limited to cards with an effect which only require auspex. Meaning Charismatic Aura can be discarded to get the +2 votes. Correct?

Correct. You have to take into account all the Disciplines listed in the left marble bar for cards in hand.

inm8 wrote:

6) The card text "cancel a combat card that requires Auspex  as it is played" is playable against cards that are played for an effect that at least requires auspex and is not limited to cards that are played for an effect which only requires auspex. Meaning it could be used to cancel Charismatic Aura as it is played. Correct?

Since the requirement to play the card included Auspex, it's enough to satisfy the condition.

PS: you can use the shortcut to display Discipline icons.

steveharris wrote:

Just a quick question regarding Hunger of Marduk. Is the strike it grants only usable once per round, ie, does this fall under "during X do y" ruling?

Steve Harris
NC, Australia

Why would it fall under the "during x do y" rule if this pattern is not used?