Lorenzo Detuono and Imposing Phantasm
13 May 2022 12:16 - 13 May 2022 19:19 #105245
by inm8
Lorenzo Detuono and Imposing Phantasm was created by inm8
This came up in the discord and would be good to get rulings for it.
If Lorenzo Detuono "at the end of combat" moves a non-ready opposing minion onto his controller's ready region with his special and in the mentioned combat Imposing Phantasm was played by him, does the minion that was moved (stolen/saved by Lorenzo) get blood/life "After combat ends,.." from the Imposing Phantasm?
Is "After combat ends" and "at the end of combat" the same time window? If not which one resolves first? If yes does the player get to order the effects?
Does the state of being the "opposing minion" get lost when the minion changes controller to the same as the other combatant?
If Lorenzo Detuono "at the end of combat" moves a non-ready opposing minion onto his controller's ready region with his special and in the mentioned combat Imposing Phantasm was played by him, does the minion that was moved (stolen/saved by Lorenzo) get blood/life "After combat ends,.." from the Imposing Phantasm?
Is "After combat ends" and "at the end of combat" the same time window? If not which one resolves first? If yes does the player get to order the effects?
Does the state of being the "opposing minion" get lost when the minion changes controller to the same as the other combatant?
Lorenzo Detuono
Imposing Phantasm
This vampire gets +1 strength this combat. After combat ends, if the opposing minion is ready, the opposing minion gains blood or life equal to the amount they lost to damage this combat.
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25 May 2022 09:24 - 25 May 2022 09:27 #105316
by Ankha
As a side note, Lorenzo could play Taste of Vitae before using his special.
However, Lorenzo could not play Taste of Vitae after, because the combat ends as soon as both minions are controlled by the same Methuselah (you cannot play combat cards anymore). You still have to resolve pending effects though.
Replied by Ankha on topic Lorenzo Detuono and Imposing Phantasm
Yes.This came up in the discord and would be good to get rulings for it.
If Lorenzo Detuono "at the end of combat" moves a non-ready opposing minion onto his controller's ready region with his special and in the mentioned combat Imposing Phantasm was played by him, does the minion that was moved (stolen/saved by Lorenzo) get blood/life "After combat ends,.." from the Imposing Phantasm?
No.Is "After combat ends" and "at the end of combat" the same time window?
"At the end of combat" first (still in combat), then "after combat" (no longer in combat).If not which one resolves first? If yes does the player get to order the effects?
It was opposing when the card was played. (Notice that after combat, there's no more "opposing minion" neither).Does the state of being the "opposing minion" get lost when the minion changes controller to the same as the other combatant?
As a side note, Lorenzo could play Taste of Vitae before using his special.
However, Lorenzo could not play Taste of Vitae after, because the combat ends as soon as both minions are controlled by the same Methuselah (you cannot play combat cards anymore). You still have to resolve pending effects though.
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