Cause and Effect - 01

Re: Stickmen vs. Carna

Stickmen have a better crypt for which means they can get more use out of superior Deflection. Last time I played a Tremere grinder I dropped all Deflections entirely in favor of bounce. It also means that I had to run Mirror Walk instead of Bonding for the oust, but it works out.

Tremere have always folded to so you have to specifically build in defenses to it (Movement of the Mind, various equipment, etc.) Otherwise combat is about as good as w/Sticks -- while Stickmen has better answers to , Theft of Vitae completely bypasses damage prevention.

Magic of the Smith makes all the difference. Not just to get the right piece of equipment to counter the combat you will face, but for Heart of Nizchetus. When you have such a balance of combat, masters and reactions, it is crucial to get the right cards in your hand.

Overall I give the advantage to but I'm biased -- work out the answer on your own.

Dorrinal wrote:

Re: Stickmen vs. Carna
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Overall I give the advantage to but I'm biased -- work out the answer on your own.

Do you know what the pic I use in the forum is?
Its what you hip kids know these days as .

Ask your boss Etrius. He remembers. B)

So no, I'm not biased, because being right is not biased.

Kidding...

Ashur wrote:

Klaital wrote:

Movement of the Mind is an awesome card.

It is? 6 TWD with it. 45 with Apportation. Just statistics, but anyway

Generally, there is no reason to press to continue with tremere, while you often want to press to end. Second round combat just sucks, really. One of the main reasons why Apportations are used more often is likely simply availability, as Movement of the Mind was only ever printed in Jyhad an V:tES.

In my experience, trying to play second-round combat sucks. But it is a vaulable threat; playing Apportation and 1-3 Walk of Flame will make a lot of people think twice about pressing to continue. A deck with damage prevention would press to continue, but then again you could play another Theft of Vitae. An animalism deck would hesitate before pressing to continue if it means both minions go to torpor (Stick probably, Nana not so much). And sometimes, an opportunity will present itself where you can press to continue with and make the Walk of Flame stick.