Direct Intervention		
	
	
			
	
						30 Sep 2021 08:04		 -  30 Sep 2021 08:05		#103395
		by Bloodartist
	
	
		
			
					
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				Replied by Bloodartist on topic Direct Intervention			
			
				I do see where Timo is coming from, and agree with him.
In the event where a cancelling card is being canceled, none of the cards involved should be replaced until all the cancelers have resolved..
The rule implies this should be the case, yet Ankha says it isn't. Illogical.
							In the event where a cancelling card is being canceled, none of the cards involved should be replaced until all the cancelers have resolved..
The rule implies this should be the case, yet Ankha says it isn't. Illogical.
Smoking craters tell no tales.
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						30 Sep 2021 13:03				#103397
		by drnlmza
	
	
		
			
				
This contradicts prior rulings by LSJ - see for example the discussion at groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/6w8K3yDtBH0/m/M_SZH9Id8n8J
Relevant quote
"The "as played" window for card X thus restricts all players to the cards they have in hand at the time the card X is played."
If this is intended as an explicit reversal, it should be stated and advertised as such.
							
					
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				Replied by drnlmza on topic Direct Intervention			
			A plays card C
B plays a wake as "C is played"
noone cancels it => B replaces the wake
B plays a cancellation card as "C is played" to cancel C
noone cancels it => B replaces the cancellation card
Card C is cancelled. A replaces C.
This contradicts prior rulings by LSJ - see for example the discussion at groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/6w8K3yDtBH0/m/M_SZH9Id8n8J
Relevant quote
"The "as played" window for card X thus restricts all players to the cards they have in hand at the time the card X is played."
If this is intended as an explicit reversal, it should be stated and advertised as such.
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						30 Sep 2021 13:24				#103398
		by Ankha
	
	
		
			
				
So cards are not replaced at all as long as the first "as it is played" window is opened, even cards played in the sub-windows.
							
					
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Ankha on topic Direct Intervention			
			Ah, good. I couldn't find this ruling.
A plays card C
B plays a wake as "C is played"
noone cancels it => B replaces the wake
B plays a cancellation card as "C is played" to cancel C
noone cancels it => B replaces the cancellation card
Card C is cancelled. A replaces C.
This contradicts prior rulings by LSJ - see for example the discussion at groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/6w8K3yDtBH0/m/M_SZH9Id8n8J
Relevant quote
"The "as played" window for card X thus restricts all players to the cards they have in hand at the time the card X is played."
If this is intended as an explicit reversal, it should be stated and advertised as such.
So cards are not replaced at all as long as the first "as it is played" window is opened, even cards played in the sub-windows.
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						01 Oct 2021 07:17				#103404
		by Timo
	
	
		
			
				
Could you edit your first posts then ? To avoid mis-quotes ?
					
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Timo on topic Direct Intervention			
			
Ah, good. I couldn't find this ruling.
A plays card C
B plays a wake as "C is played"
noone cancels it => B replaces the wake
B plays a cancellation card as "C is played" to cancel C
noone cancels it => B replaces the cancellation card
Card C is cancelled. A replaces C.
This contradicts prior rulings by LSJ - see for example the discussion at groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/6w8K3yDtBH0/m/M_SZH9Id8n8J
Relevant quote
"The "as played" window for card X thus restricts all players to the cards they have in hand at the time the card X is played."
If this is intended as an explicit reversal, it should be stated and advertised as such.
So cards are not replaced at all as long as the first "as it is played" window is opened, even cards played in the sub-windows.
Could you edit your first posts then ? To avoid mis-quotes ?
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						07 Oct 2021 11:47				#103454
		by alf
	
	
		
			
					
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				A plays card Z
B plays a wake as "Z is played"
B doesn't redraw and doesn't play anything else
C wants to DI card Z from player A
Would that be legal or is there anything preventing this?
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							B plays a wake as "Z is played"
B doesn't redraw and doesn't play anything else
C wants to DI card Z from player A
Would that be legal or is there anything preventing this?
asking for a friend
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						07 Oct 2021 11:59				#103455
		by Timo
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Timo on topic Direct Intervention			
			
				It seems the above scenario is legal.
If I am correct, we could even have :
A plays card Z
C plays a wake as "Z is played"
C doesn't redraw and doesn't play anything else
B play DI to cancel card Z from player A
(with a lot of impulse passing back and forth in-between !)
					If I am correct, we could even have :
A plays card Z
C plays a wake as "Z is played"
C doesn't redraw and doesn't play anything else
B play DI to cancel card Z from player A
(with a lot of impulse passing back and forth in-between !)
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