file Archetypes

02 Jun 2012 19:05 - 03 Jun 2012 16:26 #31618 by mondragon
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The archetypes aren't balanced.

In most games we will see Perfectionist or Capitalist (or monster or Cavalier).

But all the others are forgotten and deep buried.

I wish a ruling likes that: "All Archetypes are uniques and triffle" I think that balanced a bit the worst ones with the nicest.

EDIT: I want also erase sect requisite.
Last edit: 03 Jun 2012 16:26 by mondragon.

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02 Jun 2012 21:45 #31621 by Haze
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personalities are unique?

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02 Jun 2012 23:12 #31626 by mondragon
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Depravity and Humanitas are both Unique master

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03 Jun 2012 02:16 #31631 by Juggernaut1981
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But Depravity and Humanitas are not "Archetypes" in VTES.

Making Archetypes Unique is a pointless exercise. Sure, there are many Archetypes that are not commonly used (e.g. Conniver, Curmudgeon) but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't create new Archetype cards that are closer in power to Perfectionist or Monster. Capitalist while great, is Sabbat Only, and I find that to ALWAYS be its biggest weakness.

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03 Jun 2012 14:39 - 03 Jun 2012 14:39 #31657 by jamesatzephyr
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Archetypes

I wish a ruling likes that: "All Archetypes are uniques and triffle" I think that balanced a bit the worst ones with the nicest.


Unlikely to happen.

However, I could easily see vampires with (to my mind) zero-point specials.
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If JessieMae is ready and you play Guru on a minion you control (including JessieMae), treat it as though it is a Trifle.

Scatter a variation of that around a small handful of vampires. (Possibly not all at once.)
Last edit: 03 Jun 2012 14:39 by jamesatzephyr.
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03 Jun 2012 15:23 #31659 by Ohlmann
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The idea of James is a good way both to make flavorful special and help underused archetypes more playable.

Variant can be vampires that fetch specific archetypes ("you can play guru from your library as a master phase action" possibly with additional cost), or gain blood if another vampire with the archetype activate it, or something like that. Of course, all variant may not be 0-point special.
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