Shattering the Gate Concept

Hi.
Has anyone made a usable Shattering the Gate deck?

I want to make one, and I did (look at the end of the post). I find it quite difficult to do. Only one out per round and by a 9+ cap Baali. And everybody wants to remove it. Here are some thoughts about strategy:

Shattering the Gate possibilities:
-Huitzla +master phase to use Tend the flock

-Nergal with AUS block

-Kiasyd supp with Farie Wind

-Setite supp with AUS and corruption
-Bupe (gr4) +1 int
-Amisa (gr2), may tap vamp above 7
-Kahina (gr3) AUS cap9
-Sundervere (g4) AUS THA
-Edge Vitiation

-Diabolical Lure/Blood Storm

-Helena, Adv (gr3) AUS dai free aus/dom react

-Enrage PRE

-Petaniqua (g4) AUS DEM
-Harzomatuili Agg hand +1 int/life cost 5
-High Top +1 int add stike&man cost 4
-Renegade Garou cost 5
-Remnant of.. +x strength cost6
-Tunnel runner ani, cost 4
-Sam Haight cel, tha cost 5
-Midget (g3) DEM infernal
-Escaped Mental
-+int with babble

-Horde (g6)

-Maleficia
-Minor Curse
-Evil Eye (won't stop removal of Shattering)

-Striga
-Strix int untap
-Scobax -stealth burn blood

-Other Burn blood each round
-Anarch Revolt
-Smiling Jack
-Antedeluvian Awake


Toughts?

Deck Name : Shatter the innocent
Author : Baaliprimogen
Description : Tried it twice. First time I got an opening hand with 3 Majestys and 4 Telepathic Misdirection. So it took some time before I did anything. Got ousted quite fast with votes. Second round. The let me play a little longer, since I got so mad first round. And sweept the table.



Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 10 average: 5.91667

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7x Horde, The 3 dai obf pre Baali:6
3x Nergal Adv 10 AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA Baali:5
2x Nergal 10 AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA Baali:5


Library [90 cards]

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Action [12]
1x Rutor's Hand
8x Shatter the Gate
1x Sheepdog
2x Unleash Hell's Fury

Action Modifier [12]
3x Elder Impersonation
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
5x Freak Drive
1x True Love's Face

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [12]
12x Majesty

Equipment [2]
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Heart of Nizchetus

Master [17]
2x Archon Investigation
1x Creepshow Casino
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Loner
1x Metro Underground
1x Nocturn Theater
3x Path of Evil Revelations
5x Tend the Flock

Reaction [31]
4x Bloodstorm of Chorazin
6x Diabolic Lure
4x Enhanced Senses
4x Eyes of Argus
5x Forced Vigilance
8x Telepathic Misdirection


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Jul 19 21:52:51 2011]

Shattering the Gates will only work if you're playing Enkil Cog.

Play Shattering the Gates during predator's turn, during your turn, and during prey's turn. Hopefully, you'll manage to lockdown some of your prey's vampires for 1 turn, so that she can't burn the Gate.

lockdown options: Barrenness on the 6-7 caps. Pentex on the others. Mind Numb. Mind Rape. any blood attrioning cards (rushing / stealing blood allies, Society of Leopold, ..)

Blocking possibilties: Unleash Hell's Fury, Carlton. Auspex / Animalism (animalism is better, because of Sense the Savage Way) ; Fortitude / Thaumaturgy / Serpentis brings the untaps.




EDIT: Here's what I'd do:


Crypt: Nergal or Cybele... I guess Cybele's extra MPA can be more useful than Nergal's blood reducing ability.
I'm going with Cybele. Huitzi would probably be quite similar

[based on your decklist]
Crypt
5 Cybele ANI DAI OBF PRE THA SER
2 Midget obf pre
1 Barbaro Lucchese dai obf pre tha
2 Maureen obf DAI PRE
2 Valerius Maior ADV AUS DAI THA

72 cards

Mster 18
4 Tend the Flock
2 Pentex Subversion
2 Lilith's Blessing
5 Villein
1 Metro Underground
1 Nocturn Theater
2 Jake Washington
1 Giant's Blood
1 Perfectionist

Action 13
6 Shatter the Gate
3 Mind Numb
2 Rutor's Hand
2 Unleash Hell's Fury

Action Modifier 16
4 Lost in Crowds
2 Faceless Night
3 Psychomachia
3 Elder Impersonation
2 Enkil Cog
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies

Equipment 1
1 Heart of Nizchetus

"Allies" 3
1 Mylan Horseed
1 Carlton Van Wyk
1 Underbridge Stray [might not be necessary]

Combat 9
3 Conflagration
6 Majesty

Reaction 12
5 Sense the Savage Way
3 Cats' Guidance
2 On the Qui Vive
2 Lost in Translation

Option B, which a French player tried when Shatter came out:

5 Cybele
2 Nana
1 Stick
1 Bobby Lemon (maybe should be 2, due to Veil)
1 Beetleman
1 Fish
1 Sahana
1 Anarch Convert (surn someone into an anarch. or contest someone's)



Master 21
2 Pentex Subversion
1 Lilith's Blessing
1 Giant's Blood
2 Jake Washington
1 Wider View
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Information Highway
6 Villein
1 Presence
2 Vessel
1 Metro Underground

Action 17
5 Shatter the Gate
8 Deep Song
2 Unleash Hell's Fury
1 Rutor's Hand
1 Mind Numb

Action Modifier 8
2 Enkil Cog
3 Cloak the Gathering
2 Veil the Legion
1 Psychomachia

Combat 22
9 Aid from Bats
7 Carrion Crows
2 Canine Horde
3 Taste of Vitae

Retainer/Ally/Equipment 8
1 Carlton Van Wyk
1 Heart of Nizchetus
5 Raven Spy
1 Mylan Horseed

Reaction 12
2 On the Qui Vive
6 Sense the Savage Way
3 Cat's Guidance
1 Lost in Translation

Event 1
1 Anthelios, the Red Star

Ankha wrote:

Baaliprimogen wrote:

And everybody wants to remove it.

For having tried it a few times, this is a wrong assumption. Not everyone with want to burn the shatter the gates, or have the possibility to do it.
That doesn't mean Unleash Hell's Fury nor Enkil Cog shouldn't be used, but it isn't necessary to build a wall deck to use it.

I haven't done much with it, but I think people who just read the card don't realize how hard it is to burn the cards. I knew I could pull it off when my predator didn't try to get the Edge on the key turn.

Anyway, I see two paths for making it work. First is to defend the cards so that you actually give shattered counters out. The problem I see with this is that it's only likely to help your prey since you aren't putting as much pressure on as other decks. In theory, if you survive long enough, everyone else explodes. I'm not that confident on the surviving long enough plan. The second path is to put a lot of pool pressure on one's prey so that people fall in order. While this isn't likely to ensure that people get shattered, it has the advantage that you don't need to shatter them to win. In truth, my Shatter the Gates efforts have been to play the card as a distraction from doing better things.