Bay and Howl

Powerlord wrote:

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Why no hungry coyote?
Maybe like 1-2 outferior clothos if you need more uncontrolled vamps

I dont own a Hungry Coyote, though i thought about using a Festivo dello Estinto. The clothos costs blood and i need the blood on the vampires for the bay and howl.

Do you seriously own 12 copies of Bay and Howl but no Hungry Coyote?

Use Perfectionist if need be, but this deck really needs Hungry Coyote.

brandonsantacruz wrote:

Do you seriously own 12 copies of Bay and Howl but no Hungry Coyote?

Use Perfectionist if need be, but this deck really needs Hungry Coyote.

LOL!! It seems odd at first. But from my own experience, it is far easier to trade for Bay and Howl than for Hungry Coyote.

Hi again.

Here is the current deck:

Crypt (Capacity min=2 max=11 avg=4.94; 16 cards)
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1x Bill Butler 3 pot pro !Gangrel:4
1x Charlie Tyne 4 obf pro ser !Gangrel:4
1x Célèste Lamontagne 5 for ANI PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Denette Stensen 2 obf !Gangrel:4
1x Doyle Fincher 7 aus for obf ANI PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Enkidu, The Noah 11 for ANI CEL OBF POT PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Frère Marc 6 aus for PRO THA !Gangrel:4
1x Harry Reese 6 cel obf FOR PRO !Gangrel:3
1x Janey Pickman 6 for ANI PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Jesús Alcalá 2 cel !Gangrel:3
1x Leo Washington 2 cel pro !Gangrel:4
1x Luke Fellows 7 CEL OBF PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Lula Burch 3 for pro !Gangrel:4
1x Morrow the Sage 6 cel vic OBF PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Mowgli 5 ani cel FOR PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Scarlet Carson O'Toole 4 pro CEL !Gangrel:3

Library (72 cards)
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Master (20 cards)
1x Archon Investigation
12x Bay and Howl
1x Campground Hunting Ground
1x Information Highway
4x Life in the City
1x Major Boon

Equipment (6 cards)
6x Camera Phone

Reaction (24 cards)
2x Delaying Tactics
4x Eyes of the Beast
4x Forced Awakening
4x Pack Tactics
6x Sonar
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Combat (22 cards)
6x Earth Meld
4x Flesh of Marble
2x Form of Mist
10x Leathery Hide

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Regarding the last comments:
@Brandon: I have been given 1 B&H (because I already had 11) from RickStock. I'm a more or less frequent buyer and when I asked for one he decided to offer me. Besides this gift, I trade 3 and I might have won another 2 or 3 on a Ebay auction. All other 5 or 6 I got them from boosters. I have about 20 Talons of the Dead and arround 6 Gangrel Conspiracy, all from boosters/decks and I dont remember ever owning a Hungry Coyote...
Regarding the Perfectionist, I already have alot of masters and I cant afford more that are not trifle. I would trade the HG for the Hungry Coyote if I could though.

@Juggernaut: I liked your suggestion, I think I have two Dual Forms, adding my two embraces (previous Brum suggestion), I might take out the camera phones for these.

@Torrance: And I might had a couple of Raves to test, though I dont think they are needed.

Thanks all for these comments.

Hello all

After a few tests and some thoughts, here is the currente version:


Vampire (16) [Min: 9 Max: 31 Avg: 4,94]
1 Bill Butler pot pro 3 Sabbat.
1 Célèste Lamontagne for ANI PRO 5 Sabbat
1 Charlie Tyne obf pro ser 4 Sabbat.
1 Denette Stensen obf 2 Sabbat.
1 Doyle Fincher aus for obf ANI PRO 7 Sabbat
1 Enkidu, The Noah for ANI CEL OBF POT PRO 11 Sabbat. Red List
1 Frère Marc aus for PRO THA 6 Sabbat.
1 Harry Reese cel obf FOR PRO 6 Sabbat
1 Janey Pickman for ANI PRO 6 Sabbat
1 Jesús Alcalá cel 2 Sabbat.
1 Leo Washington cel pro 2 Sabbat
1 Luke Fellows CEL OBF PRO 7 Sabbat
1 Lula Burch for pro 3 Sabbat.
1 Morrow the Sage cel vic OBF PRO 6 Sabbat
1 Mowgli ani cel FOR PRO 5 Sabbat
1 Scarlet Carson O'Toole pro CEL 4 Sabbat.

Master (20)
1 Archon Investigation
12 Bay and Howl Gangrel antitribu
1 Hungry Coyote, The
1 Information Highway
4 Life in the City
1 Major Boon

Action (11)
3 Dual Form Protean
2 Embrace, The
6 Marked Territory Gangrel antitribu

Equipment (1)
1 Heart of Nizchetus

Reaction (26)
2 Delaying Tactics
4 Eyes of the Beast Protean
4 Forced Awakening
2 On the Qui Vive
4 Pack Tactics
6 Sonar Protean
4 Wake with Evening's Freshness

Combat (20)
6 Earth Meld Protean
2 Flesh of Marble Protean
2 Form of Mist Protean
10 Leathery Hide Gangrel antitribu


The deck still is a bit slow over it's prey, but i haven't found a way to turn it more aggressive.

Cheers

The main problem I see with this deck is that most of the time, its prey is going to get 3 vp and gw, as it doesn't do anything forward in long time. It also has no stealth, so pretty much anyone with +1 intercept next to it blocking all those guys hunting empty is going to destroy it. While leathery hides help some against that, I don't really see the point of flesh of marbles in this deck. Further on, I don't really see why Bay and Howl would be better than Tribute to the Master which would let you get the blood to your pool straight away.

Overall, it looks like a deck that it sucks to be predator of, but the ideal one to be prey of, and its prey will win almost always, most of its intercept can even be only used on d actions so can't even do much to a voting prey, and voting predator would likely oust it pretty quickly too, since it doesn't actually have any way to regain pool fast, it can get max of 3 pool a turn if it has that single info highway of the deck in play, otherwise only 2.

Powerlord wrote:

The deck still is a bit slow over it's prey, but i haven't found a way to turn it more aggressive.

This is the classic problem for Gangrel antitribu. Their disciplines lack significant offensive punch.

-6 Marked Territory
+6 Camera Phone