Master Disciplines

jamesatzephyr wrote:

I'd be a little concerned about the scope for rustling up multiple vampires who can play Spirit Marionette in e.g. a deck that Embrace-s quite a few weenies, and can refill with Renewed Vigor. Certainly, I could be convinced otherwise by a thorough playtest, but it feels uncomfortable.

The only problem with it I can see is basically a Tap 'n' Bleed for 2 repeatedly. You might be able to get Saulot to become an unstoppable machine making babies and 2 bleeding, but the babies should be easy enough to block/flick/etc since they would not really have a lot of defence. They'd have MAYBE or or ...

They aren't discipline cards so you can't fish them out with the Progeny/Embrace/LBv2/etc and that should limit the shennanigans because trying to do it means hand jam when you cycle into the many you would need for your weenies.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

They aren't discipline cards so you can't fish them out with the Progeny/Embrace/LBv2/etc

You can't fetch any Discipline cards with Embrace, keyword or not, at least not for the last decade.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

and that should limit the shennanigans because trying to do it means hand jam when you cycle into the many you would need for your weenies.

But every time you make it easier to do something like this, it can combine with other options. Like you might put a couple of Potence masters and and a Hand of Conrad in a deck, and you might put a Camarilla Vitae Slave and a couple of weird disciplines in your Lasombra deck.

For the Salubri, it wouldn't be implausible to stack up a few Embraces, Freaks, Sanguine Instruction and a pseudo-discipline card. Spirit Marionette + Heidelberg/Rave and/or Renewed Vigor can net you a lot of blood back. Using an Embrace weenie for something like Journal of Hrorsh isn't totally out of line.

Bamba

Action
[1 Blood]
Requires a non-sterile Laibon with capacity 4 or more. +1 stealth action.
Put this card in play; it becomes a 1-capacity non-unique Laibon of the same clan and cannot act this turn. If the acting Laibon is a magaji, you may search your library, hand and ash heap for a master: Discipline card to play on this vampire (pay cost as normal) and you may move 1 blood from that magaji to this Laibon.

"Fetch me a discipline filthy methuselah!", said the 7-cap Laibon magaji.