file Some Gangrel Card Ideas

23 Apr 2014 10:14 - 23 Apr 2014 10:14 #61421 by Juggernaut1981
Scattered in the Woods
:reaction: Reaction
:gang: Gangrel
Only usable during a (D) action against you.
Reduce a bleed against you by 1 or increase the cost of a (D) action targeting one of your cards by 1 blood.


City Aversion
Master
:gang: Gangrel
Only playable if all of your ready vampires are Gangrel :gang:
Actions by other Methuselahs which target your minions have -1 stealth and cost +1 blood. You may tap a Gangrel you control to reduce a bleed against you by 1.


Shape of the Inner Beast
:action: Action
:pro: Protean
1 blood
Frenzy. During this action this vampire may not use any equipment or retainers.
:pro: Bleed at +1 bleed and -1 stealth.
:PRO: Bleed at +2 bleed and -1 stealth.

:bruj::CEL::POT::PRE::tha: Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Last edit: 23 Apr 2014 10:14 by Juggernaut1981.

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23 Apr 2014 11:42 - 23 Apr 2014 11:56 #61422 by CalibanX
Beautiful! The Gangrel need our help.


How about making the Shape of the Inner Beast card a dual discipline card with Animalism and drop the -1 Stealth penalty or the blood cost?
Last edit: 23 Apr 2014 11:56 by CalibanX.

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23 Apr 2014 13:16 - 23 Apr 2014 14:28 #61424 by ReverendRevolver
Not feeling enough power/theme working on the first one, second one is too much(which you will laugh at once you see the next few ideas i post, but still) and third is......

Not terrible, but add "no more action modifiers can be played to increase the amount of this bleed" and +1 strength to superior.
I dig it. So, Ariadne can have tier of souls, and deep song bleed, play shape of the inner beast, and then use one of 3 stealth options or 1 block denial (2if given abo for dc throat). She, or anyone who can afford it, can pay 5 blood and two cards to make a bleed unblockable and at +2

I wasnt going to do action modifiers for just protean for bleed, but you convinced me.

Id add the above changes, and if needed, dual PRO ANI and say as above, and any vampire with capacity less than 5 and mortal allies cannot block this action.


Dont like the others though.

Edit: i dig shape of the inner beast so much i may just keep bumping this thread. Seriously.
Last edit: 23 Apr 2014 14:28 by ReverendRevolver.

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23 Apr 2014 14:32 #61430 by jamesatzephyr

City Aversion
Master
:gang: Gangrel
Only playable if all of your ready vampires are Gangrel :gang:
Actions by other Methuselahs which target your minions have -1 stealth and cost +1 blood. You may tap a Gangrel you control to reduce a bleed against you by 1.


Careful. By costing a blood, you prevent actions taken by Imbued, War Ghouls, Shamblers etc.


Shape of the Inner Beast
:action: Action
:pro: Protean
1 blood
Frenzy. During this action this vampire may not use any equipment or retainers.
:pro: Bleed at +1 bleed and -1 stealth.
:PRO: Bleed at +2 bleed and -1 stealth.


I can't put my finger on it, but it feels a bit off. Maybe because Protean has been historically quite good at stealth and unblockability.

Also, I might change the restriction to something maybe like: "During this action, this vampire may not use any equipment or retainers, unless they require Animalism :ani:." Which is basically trying to say "No using JS Simmons or .44 Magnum or Polaris Coach, but you can go into a frenzy with a Murder of Crows swooping in after you, because that's kinda cool." (Technically, you could get stealth this way with Jackal. Good luck with that.)

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23 Apr 2014 20:11 #61446 by Juggernaut1981
Considering the canon ability "Shape of the Inner Beast" effectively turns you into an animalistic raging murderous nutjob... using 8th Level Protean (no animalism at all)... Seemed worth it to add a little negative stealth for the crazy animal thing on a murderous rampage.

The first two are just riffing off the same idea... Gangrel don't have 'seats of power' they don't have 'big enclaves of influence'... they're scattered around the place, hard to find, etc, etc, etc. A Gangrel turns up when it wants to and is gone fishing for the rest of the time.

:bruj::CEL::POT::PRE::tha: Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418

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24 Apr 2014 00:04 - 24 Apr 2014 00:05 #61467 by Miasmat
Replied by Miasmat on topic Re: Some Gangrel Card Ideas

Not terrible, but add "no more action modifiers can be played to increase the amount of this bleed" and +1 strength to superior.
I dig it. So, Ariadne can have tier of souls, and deep song bleed, play shape of the inner beast, and then use one of 3 stealth options or 1 block denial (2if given abo for dc throat). She, or anyone who can afford it, can pay 5 blood and two cards to make a bleed unblockable and at +2

I wasnt going to do action modifiers for just protean for bleed, but you convinced me.


Note, he has it listed as an :action: Action, NOT an :modifier: Action Modifier. So, no teaming it up with Deep Song bleed.
Last edit: 24 Apr 2014 00:05 by Miasmat.

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