Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
26 Jun 2013 20:33 #50504
by Juggernaut1981




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I notice that all of the recent variations of this card are not doing anything to maintain or increase minion interactions.





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27 Jun 2013 09:22 #50533
by koko Loco
text:Name: Lilith's BlessingCardtype: MasterCost: 1 pool Master. Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari
Preposed change:-
text:Name: Lilith's BlessingCardtype: MasterCost: 1 pool Master. Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. This card can not be used in combination with another master that would give you Pool this turn. If able this Vampire must take an action this turn. This Vampire can not hunt this turn.
It could be worded clearer & more specific, however Increasing requirements to use this Master may stop players abusing this card.
Replied by koko Loco on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
I notice that all of the recent variations of this card are not doing anything to maintain or increase minion interactions.
text:Name: Lilith's BlessingCardtype: MasterCost: 1 pool Master. Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari
Preposed change:-
text:Name: Lilith's BlessingCardtype: MasterCost: 1 pool Master. Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. This card can not be used in combination with another master that would give you Pool this turn. If able this Vampire must take an action this turn. This Vampire can not hunt this turn.
It could be worded clearer & more specific, however Increasing requirements to use this Master may stop players abusing this card.
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27 Jun 2013 10:05 #50535
by kombainas
This is so much text for such a cornercase drawback. However, this would make it a curse, not a blessing. Perhaps a simple steal/burn clause would work. Something like any minion can burn/steal this card as a D action. If it is successful, inflict 1 damage to every bahari vampire.
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
Replied by kombainas on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
If able this Vampire must take an action this turn. This Vampire can not hunt this turn.
It could be worded clearer & more specific, however Increasing requirements to use this Master may stop players abusing this card.
This is so much text for such a cornercase drawback. However, this would make it a curse, not a blessing. Perhaps a simple steal/burn clause would work. Something like any minion can burn/steal this card as a D action. If it is successful, inflict 1 damage to every bahari vampire.





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27 Jun 2013 11:19 #50546
by koko Loco
Replied by koko Loco on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
text:Name: Lilith's BlessingCardtype: MasterCost: 0 pool Master. Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 1blood and becomes Bahari
My last effort does read a little like a curse. However I think the "steal/burn clause" reads like a curse also. Three blessing No pool cost, 1 free blood, and possibility to gain a Discipline card.
My last effort does read a little like a curse. However I think the "steal/burn clause" reads like a curse also. Three blessing No pool cost, 1 free blood, and possibility to gain a Discipline card.
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27 Jun 2013 12:19 #50560
by kombainas
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
Replied by kombainas on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
Well, burn/steal clause of whatever effect, is not a curse strictly speaking, it is a way to remove blessing (ala fall from grace) or becoming a new favourite. Stealing/burning it should probably cost a pool/blood or more, but what I somewhat like is punishing bahari if they let this to happen. Imagine someone bloating with highcaps and LB with a spray of obediences. You don't go after the guys, you go after LB, bam-bam, thank you mam, bleed for 1+ until any poolgain gotten from abusing LB goes to influencing a new vampire. Obedience won't help if you get past fatties and you could pass LB around without ever creating bahari of your own as some sort of desecration. Everything without any cards, but LB and some light stealth to get past blockers for the initial stealing. You would have lots of minion interactions (constant thievery, temptation to become bahari yourself and risk being punished for that and 3 player interactions).





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27 Jun 2013 18:33 - 27 Jun 2013 18:34 #50594
by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text
What if were more targeted to a specific type of deck?
Lilith's Blessing
1 Pool
Master.
Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to Search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. This vampire must enter combat with a minion controlled by your predator as a 0 stealth
action this turn.
Lilith's Blessing
1 Pool
Master.
Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to Search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. This vampire must enter combat with a minion controlled by your predator as a 0 stealth

Last edit: 27 Jun 2013 18:34 by Adonai.
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