THE CURRENT STATE OF V:TES - November 2015

Ankha wrote:

3/ noone can afford a lawsuit against Wizards, even if they're wrong and their licence has expired.

I think that this is the most relevant part. The copyrights will be valid for decades to come, so that must be dealt with. Paradox will assumedly be the new owner of part of the artwork now, but some may still reside at Wizards.

By the way, I just checked the trademarks database for Vampire The Eternal Struggle, some interesting stuff going on related to former producers WhiteWolf.

VTES search trademarks

Looks like despite CCP is (still) registered as the current owner of the original trademark, but Whitewolf filed a new identical trademark application on 26 October 2015 (along with some other related filings including VtM), maybe in response to the Paradox deal. I think WW have no chance to re-obtain it, but apparently they think they can benefit somehow. Possibly, WW has a renewed interest to produce the game once again in the future?

[edit] Check - WW was also acquired by Paradox - so the renewed filing of the trademark may indicate anticipation of using that brand once again.

Link to the trademark filing by White Wolf Publishing AB of Stockholm, SE:

www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=EMTM.014730551

BenPeal wrote:

Link to the trademark filing by White Wolf Publishing AB of Stockholm, SE:

www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=EMTM.014730551

Amusing. Most probably it's just one from the long list, but we may hope...

elotar wrote:

BenPeal wrote:

Link to the trademark filing by White Wolf Publishing AB of Stockholm, SE:

www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=EMTM.014730551

Amusing. Most probably it's just one from the long list, but we may hope...

Yeah, if you do a search for other White Wolf properties, you'll see a ton of filings from October 26-27. Still good to see V:TES in that list.

BenPeal wrote:

elotar wrote:

BenPeal wrote:

Link to the trademark filing by Whitalf Publishing AB of Stockholm, SE:

www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=EMTM.014730551

Amusing. Most probably it's just one from the long list, but we may hope...

Yeah, if you do a search for other White Wolf properties, you'll see a ton of filings from October 26-27. Still good to see V:TES in that list.

We are mentioned in the second paragraph of the WW home page. We aren't forgotten, but that doesn't mean we have their attention as much as needed. Yet.

Get someone from Canada to do it. When it comes to foreign interests(even domestic interests) trying to drag a Canadian to court, there are all sorts of loopholes you can use to delay it and make it HELL for the company doing it. You could also register a company, Incorporate, get the game out of the gate into the hands of players, anyone who will carry it and then fold your company before any real heat is on the horizon. They can't go after you. Company doesn't exist. Have a good laugh.