Vampire: Elder Kindred Network Newsletter June 2022

GiftsUngiven wrote:

We are just a week or something away from the next Newsletter. Let's so how many more major tournaments were won by Liquidation this current month and how creative players can get to justify not doing anything about it.

there should be a small tournament somewhere in a week or two

thelonius wrote:

elotar wrote:

thelonius wrote:

How do you balance a deck who plays liquidation with no recursion such as Legionaries?

Nobody are playing liquidation without some type of ash-heap abuse.

Me, winning/reaching final in quite a number of recent tournament

One example is not statistically significant, especially from somebody, who are deliberately making his deck worse to delude the public.

cordovader wrote:

Bloodartist wrote:

elotar wrote:

That literally what I'm saying. When there is a negative effect than the card is fine. When 7 cards in the ash heap became actually positive effect, than the card became broken.

This (intended drawback turning out to be positive) is very common in strongest cards in various card games. That in itself is not the issue.

The issue is how common liquidation is in winning strategies, and how little counterplay there is to these strategies. (to master cards in general)

This is a poor argument since there are other cards that are far more popular in the TWDA (e.g. Dreams of the Sphinx).

Don't get me started about dreams

elotar wrote:

cordovader wrote:

Bloodartist wrote:

elotar wrote:

That literally what I'm saying. When there is a negative effect than the card is fine. When 7 cards in the ash heap became actually positive effect, than the card became broken.

This (intended drawback turning out to be positive) is very common in strongest cards in various card games. That in itself is not the issue.

The issue is how common liquidation is in winning strategies, and how little counterplay there is to these strategies. (to master cards in general)

This is a poor argument since there are other cards that are far more popular in the TWDA (e.g. Dreams of the Sphinx).

Don't get me started about dreams

Contesting Dreams is my favorite oust mechanism........

Will there be a July newsletter?