Seraph's Second

Good news are : you cannot play an action modifier when someone else's minion is acting (barring specific card text). so absolutely no need for rewording. Yay !

Reyda wrote:

Good news are : you cannot play an action modifier when someone else's minion is acting (barring specific card text). so absolutely no need for rewording. Yay !

Sure we know that but the rules don't say that, they say:

Only the acting minion can play action modifiers, while only other Methuselahs' ready untapped minions can play reaction cards. The effect of an action modifier or a reaction card lasts for the duration of the current action by default.

so it's not obvious that if a card is playable by a non-acting minion e.g. Seraph's Second why it would only be limited to the minions also controlled by that Methuselah .

Squidalot wrote:

Reyda wrote:

Good news are : you cannot play an action modifier when someone else's minion is acting (barring specific card text). so absolutely no need for rewording. Yay !

Sure we know that but the rules don't say that, they say:

Only the acting minion can play action modifiers, while only other Methuselahs' ready untapped minions can play reaction cards. The effect of an action modifier or a reaction card lasts for the duration of the current action by default.

so it's not obvious that if a card is playable by a non-acting minion e.g. Seraph's Second why it would only be limited to the minions also controlled by that Methuselah .

Ok. So i have jalan and banjoko untapped, clan impersonating malkavian. Madness network is in play. They bleed. Untap with seraphs second. Can i continue to bleed and untap with both seraphs each players turn until i cease to draw them? I think you cancross cloak under those circumstances. Does it work?

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Squidalot wrote:

Reyda wrote:

Good news are : you cannot play an action modifier when someone else's minion is acting (barring specific card text). so absolutely no need for rewording. Yay !

Sure we know that but the rules don't say that, they say:

Only the acting minion can play action modifiers, while only other Methuselahs' ready untapped minions can play reaction cards. The effect of an action modifier or a reaction card lasts for the duration of the current action by default.

so it's not obvious that if a card is playable by a non-acting minion e.g. Seraph's Second why it would only be limited to the minions also controlled by that Methuselah .

Ok. So i have jalan and banjoko untapped, clan impersonating malkavian. Madness network is in play. They bleed. Untap with seraphs second. Can i continue to bleed and untap with both seraphs each players turn until i cease to draw them? I think you cancross cloak under those circumstances. Does it work?

Nope it doesn't work, try reading card text before asking. Neither Banjoko nor Jalan is a 'non-seraph' so you can't play Seraph's Second on either of them.

Ok, sorry, cant reference secret library while answering on my phone. I need to just dig into my cards. They are right next to me, but non-discipline modifiers are on the bottom box of the pile.

How about: eleimelech bleeds. I have madness network out. Marge khan clan impersonates malks. Ss to untap. An i continually bleed with marge and untap with seraphs second each turn? Can i cross cloak with eliemelech while doing it?

Can't see why not.